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According to the [map of Africa], Kamerun is Camerão, and presumably Portuguese, not Dalmatian. What's the truth? Boreanesia 00:02, 18 May 2005 (PDT)

That's the truth indeed. It was one of the conclusions of the long Africa discussion we had earlier this year. Kamerun became Portuguese because:
  1. Portugal somehow got away very lousily in Africa, being left with hardly anything;
  2. Dalmatia had more than enough anyway;
  3. France was mentioned as a candidate, but it turned out that France had nothing to complain about anyway, really;
  4. Germany could have been a strong candidate too, but it was decided that Germany had no colonies in Africa;
  5. Castile-Leon was a contender too, but... well, let's say that Portugal was the lucky one in this case, while C-L got some of the Fernando Póos near the coast.
--IJzeren Jan 00:35, 18 May 2005 (PDT)
In that case, the Kamerun page either needs to be rewritten or deleted. Boreanesia 01:21, 18 May 2005 (PDT)
Ouch! You are right. Well, I guess rewriting would be better, but not without Ferko's input. Perhaps he'd like to move the Kamerun story to another Dalmatophone state. IJzeren Jan 01:24, 18 May 2005 (PDT)
Okay, however it needs rewriting is cool. And perhaps we can keep Camerao as being the one involved in both the Biafran and the Togo-Benin wars, though of course they wouldn't have had any KSD membership to suspend. Though perhaps it started as Austro-Dalmatian, but was later ceded to Portugal for... something or other? Perhaps in exchange for tax-free status at Portuguese ports? Dalmatinac 19:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Or perhaps Kamerun started as a portuguese colony which later was lost during the Philippine House rule (1581-1640). *Here* Portugal lost several colonies during the personal union with Spain and others were attacked by foreign powers which were enemies of Spain. Remember the dutch colonies in Brazil during this period, for example.--Pedromoderno 00:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
That seems like the very best solution. The main reason for giving it to Portugal, IIRC, was that everyone suddenly realized, "Hold on, Portugal needs something in Africa - they were the first Europeans there!" Having Austro-Dalmaover tia take it over would allow the history as written to stand, while still acknowledging an early Portuguese colony. Benkarnell 05:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
However it should be noted that Ashanti and Ethiopian attack and occupation of (Portuguese colony of) Came Rao during the Second Great War was the reason for Portugal to enter the war (solely the African theater) as a part of Iberian Pact (see Ethiopian Liberation War) - this is also based on the idea that Came Rao was a Portuguese colony as it was shown on maps. Abdul-aziz 22:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Hmmmm. Couple things on this point, one, how exactly did the Ashanti get from Western Gold Coast to Cameroon, through Togo and Western Gold Coast...? Second: I just had a thought. Perhaps Kamerun could be kept Dalmatian (perhaps with Pedromoderno's idea of it having been originally Portuguese) - Portugal could get Gabon instead, as we know next to nothing about it and it wouldn't interfere with QSS. Simply move the Ethiopian invasion to Gabon to get the Portuguese involvement. Kamerun would likely still have been invaded, but it would have been the Danubians the fight was against (who were a member of the Grossartige Allianz, at least until Danubia collapsed into civil war). This way, QSS remains unaffected vis a vis Kamerun, Portugal gets involved in GW2, and we get to learn a little bit more about Gabon. Dalmatinac 02:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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