Talk:Henry Portman

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The first one would be philosopher's somethingorother, since that was changed for the US consumption audience. O'course, Henry may not be far enough gone for Mme Rowling. BoArthur 21:47, 14 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Should that italicised Potter in the article be a Portman? I seem to remember reading once that Rowling claimed to be C of Scotland so maybe the titles found success after they were translated from the original Scots. Where can we find that information? And does Portman have a long-lost sister called Natalia? mmmmm! - AndrewSmith 21:28, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Possible book titles

"Henry Portman" just begs for the parody treatment, therefore I suggest the following book titles:

Henry Portman and the Goblet of Snot
Henry Portman and the Very Angry Chipmunk
Henry Portman and the Bulimic, Narcoleptic Caveman with Antagonistic Rage and One Glass Eye
Henry Portman and the Porcelain Throne
Henry Portman and the Shared Needle
Henry Portman And The Time They Just Sat There For 300 Pages

All courtesy of :þ Deiniol 17:40, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Slightly more serious possible book titles

Henry Portman and the Armorican Witch
Henry Portman and the Talisman of Tesla

(not a fan so I'm limited here) --Marc Pasquin 18:00, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)


Should be something Celtic, methinks. What are a good breakdown Celtic-wise? BoArthur 21:37, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)

The (ancient) Celts really didn't have money. When they made their own coins, it was mostly in immitation of Greek or Roman coins. Perhaps the author of HP in IB could make use of (twisted) Irish denominations? [PB]
Hmm ... could be, could be. I was just playing with a joke about the money. It's notoriously non-decimal in *here*'s version, a parody of the old British money, but with far less convenient systems, and since *there*, decimal is the odd currency, I figured, why not decimal?  :-) Nik 21:40, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)
I hadn't even noted the decimal part. Ha! Guess you know which universe I spend most of my time in! BoArthur
While I have no problem with the proposed HP universe currency, I'ld only note that the joke *here* about Harry Potter universe money is that there are people *here* who remember the old British system and its quaint terminology. *There*, there was never any different system. There wouldn't be anything particularly humorous about it, as no one would have any experience with such a currency system. I guess it could certainly have a "oo, ain't that weird" sort of effect. Elemtilas

New Titles

Don't like 'em. Anyone got other ideas? I like the Bulimic Narcoleptic Neanderthal With One Glass Eye, personally. :) BoArthur

Here are my suggestions:

  • Henry Portman and the Athenian Rock
  • Henry Portman and the Alchemist's Gem
  • Henry Portman and the Seventh Ward
  • Henry Portman and the Hidden Door
  • Henry Portman and the Lair of Mysteries
  • Henry Portman and the Inmate of Alkatrax
  • Henry Portman and the Escaped Captive
  • Henry Portman and the Hour of Revenge
  • Henry Portman and the Grail of Flames
  • Henry Portman and the Sorcerous Tournement
  • Henry Portman and the Contest of Powers
  • Henry Portman and the Half-A-Royal
  • Henry Portman and the Almost Lord
  • Henry Portman and the Royal Heir


I like:

  • Henry Portman and the Seventh Ward
  • Henry Portman and the Angry Chipmunk
  • Henry Portman and the Hour of Revenge
  • Henry Portman and the Contest of Powers
  • Henry Portman and the Order of the Barking Spiders
  • Henry Portman and the Mysterious Potion Book

BoArthur 08:53, 24 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Hee hee. So do I (especially the Barking Spiders for some reason).


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As soon as they start making the movies somebody is bound to point out that Dobbie looks like President Arensky. *Here* it was commented on that he looked like Putin. - AndrewSmith

Last Title

In our world, the last title was of course Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Methinks we can come up with another interesting version, yes? Zahir 21:56, 30 August 2007 (PDT)

Henry Portman and the Gates of Dawn? - AndrewSmith 01:11, 31 August 2007 (PDT)
Henry Portman and the Crystal Ball of Ages or perhaps Henry Portman and the Pharoah's Royal Wand or maybe even Henry Portman and the Dwinderwick Quest? Zahir 08:51, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
I like Gates of Dawn. What's a dwinderwick? When I first saw it, I thought you'd written "dwimmerwick", which would be a magical curling carom shot. ;) Elemtilas 11:27, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
One of the alternate titles for DH was "The Perverell Quest" which refers to an ancient, now-extinct magic family. "Dwimmerwick" was intended as simply a possible family name. <g> Zahir 23:37, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
Don't you mean "Dwinderwick"? ;) I have no problem if it's a family name -- was just curious as to what it means! Elemtilas 15:55, 6 September 2007 (PDT)
Is it based off the series the Spiderwick chronicles? Misterxeight 17:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Harry Potter, I think! Elemtilas 19:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
No, someone said "Diderwick Chronicles". Misterxeight 19:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
From what I gather, "Dwinderwick" seems to be a family name in the Henry Portman world. I didn't see any reference to "Chronicles" of any sort. Are you interested in the Spiderwick Chronicles? If so, once you've gotten the Greek colonies ironed out and have set Greece on its course to utter ruin ;)))), you might consider an IB alternate to the Spiderwick series? NO RUSH, though, right! :))) Elemtilas 20:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

No, I hadn't fully woken up yet. I didn't noticed there was a "w" in it. Sorry Misterxeight 20:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Not so obvious?

One of the biggest problems with the Henry Portman as it stands is that it is too obvious a take on the Harry Potter stand. Whilst that is not itrinsically a bad thing, there are some things that I propose to be different, based on the diffesrences between IB and Here. The first is related to Sci-Fi and that genre. Whilst this is obviously not the fantasy, these two things could be merged. There are certain elements which are references to things which are either still the case (e.g. pre-decimal money, mentioned on the talk page but not on the page itself) and also the general setting. I'm thinking that perhaps a certain "chrome" appeal might go down better in Ill Bethisad and feel more alien to the situation at hand. By doing that (and I do have some ideas) it would be possible to take this so that it wasn't such a blatant rip-off. The other thing that interests me is the so-called beaurocracy demonstrated by the *here*'s Ministry of Magic, which is a parody of the governments of the real world *here*. *There* we seem to have a "Commonwealth of Magic" which references the at least other nations. So perhaps we have an opposite system in Ill Bethisad - which could parody something like NeoLeft by being if anything Ogliarchical?

Well, yes Henry Portman is a version of Harry Potter in much the same way Space Voyage 2245 is Star Trek and Traci the Vompire Hunter is Buffy. Both are very similar to their original creations in some ways but very different in others (the plot I've described, for example, bears a bit more resemblence to Ursula K. LeGuin's A Wizard of Earthsea while I've switched certain roles around--Snape and Dumbledore, Ron and Hermione, made Luna Harry's love interest, etc.). Methinks that was the idea, and that was went into the original effort of creating the titles, etc. On the other hand, who's to say someone else didn't write a very similar set of stories with a science fiction setting? After all, Rowling's books bear some resemblence to a much earlier set of children's books called The Worst Witch. Zahir 18:53, 8 September 2007 (PDT)