Talk:Castreleon New

Why Fort Nassau and not Fort Orange, i.e. Albany? Also, is Breuckelen (and the other so-called Outer Boroughs) part of Nieuw Amsterdam? Steg

I would imagine that they are, however, I don't know for sure, and I'm actually invovled in an e-mail string with Andrew, Padraic, and John Cowan. I'll bring that up, in case they haven't been watching the wiki. And thanks for helping me flesh it out.

Hey, that sounds interesting! Mind cc-ing me too? --IJzeren Jan 02:14, 5 Sep 2005 (PDT)

And for the record, there were actually Fort Nassau and Orange *here*. Nassau was superceded here by Fort Orange, which, as you aptly say became Albany. I think that Albany was an Anglo-name, and since NYC is still New Amsterdam *there* I thought there would be less name-changing.

I'll bring you in on the thread of e-mails. BoArthur 20:06, 4 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Names?

Something that's always bugged me. Why does New Castreleon have two distinct names in each of English and Brithenig? Surely New Batavia would be an obsolete name by now? Or at most, might be the name by which it's known in Dutch? Nik 21:41, 23 March 2006 (PST)

Shouldn't it be Provincie van Nieuw Batavie? --Sikulu 05:17, 24 March 2006 (PST)

Its the same case with Mueva Sefarad (2 different names), did Steg explain it in some way that could apply here ? --Marc Pasquin 06:27, 24 March 2006 (PST)

Mueva Sefarad *means* 'New Iberia' in Ladino. It just happens to sound very different. 'New Spain', on the other hand, is simply the colloquial name many non-Muevasefaradíes use, which has no legal standing whatsoever. Mueva Sefarad prefers Mueva Sefarad, whether written in Ladino or the Latin or other alphabet, but will accept New Iberia or New Sefarad (or other language equivalents). Steg, a.k.a. Boroparkpyro 12:26, 24 March 2006 (PST)

My mistake, I thought both New Iberia and New Spain were the legal names, the first in ladino, the second in english. One question that just hit me, considering the difference in the iberic peninsula *there*, what "spain" is being refered to ? --Marc Pasquin 17:23, 24 March 2006 (PST)

At least in Muevasefaradí usage, Sefarad (=Iberia) is the entire peninsula, all countries, throughout history. "Spain" is only the Christian kingdoms, as distinct from historical "Al-Andalus". Steg, a.k.a. Boroparkpyro 20:17, 27 March 2006 (PST)

In modern times, however, there would be no practical difference between Iberia and Spain, right? Nik 20:30, 27 March 2006 (PST)

Right. No practical difference. Sefarad "Iberia" just has an additional temporal dimension. Steg, a.k.a. Boroparkpyro 12:48, 29 March 2006 (PST)

But even if so, that's two different languages. That's not the same language using two names. The article seems to imply that both "Castreleon New" and "Nieuw Batavie" (why the difference in order?) are official names in Kemrese, while New Castreleon and New Batavia are both official names in English. Nik 18:11, 24 March 2006 (PST)

D'oh! I just realized that Nieuw Batavie is Dutch. So, is the official English name "New Castreleon"? Nik 18:15, 24 March 2006 (PST)

That's what we've always referred to it as. Deiniol 13:42, 29 March 2006 (PST)

Flag

What does it represent? The stars, specificly, i mean. (also Boroparkpyro 12:28, 24 March 2006 (PST))

The northern cross. Zahir 13:56, 24 March 2006 (PST)

Any particular significance for its choice or is it meant to "echo" the NAL flag ? --Marc Pasquin 07:20, 25 March 2006 (PST)

I got the idea from New Zealand's flag *here* but its significance is as a reminder of the navigators who found the place and continued to be crucial to commerce. There's also the idea that Castreleon New is seen as a northern colony as opposed to the southern ones like Carolina, Virginia, Florida, etc. Much as Kemr itself is a northern nation, as opposed to the southern ones like Spain, the Ottoman Empire, etc. If anything I should think the NAL flag is an echo of this one, which I presume came first. Zahir 07:38, 25 March 2006 (PST)