Talk:Nassland

Don't mean to be fussy or anything, but what's happened to the Karelians??? --Sikulu 16 December 2005, 14:58 (GMT)

"I tell thee, they were obducted by them blue, six-fingered space aliens many centuries ago!"

Seriously, no Karelians *there*. Just like there are no Poles or Welshmen in IB either. Instead, there are Nassians living in the area. It's possible that there is a Nassian dialect called "Karelian" (I don't remember offhand), but even if so, these people are not the same people as *here*'s Karelians. --IJzeren Jan 07:16, 16 December 2005 (PST)

I'm just wandering, because Karelian is similar to Finnish (in that it's an Uralic language). --Sikulu 16 December 2005, 15:20 (GMT)

There is a region in Nassland called preliminarly _Karala_, what is the approx. the Karelia *here*. Slavs just accepted the original name (should be _Kor(u)ela_). Karelians *here* appeared as a distinct nation sometime in 10th cc EC or later (as far as our Fenno-ugric guru Jussi told me), so no chance for them to appear *there*. The east Nassian dialect is called Karalan and there are high probably still some Fenno-Ugric tribes nothern of Moscow, which might be either Luudi or some kinda IB Karelians. Jan II. 08:17, 16 December 2005 (PST)

So, I guess it's just going to be a province like Samiland then? --Sikulu 16 December 2005, 16: 20 (GMT)

I would say, Karala is rather geographical toponyme, the administrative division in Nassland does not include such, in extent large, units. Jan II. 22:52, 18 December 2005 (PST)

Orthodoxy a Major Religion?

I don't know that Orthodoxy would be a major religion in Nassland, given the strong Swedish Lutheran input until the 1850's. I imagine that it might be a minority religion, practiced among Russian expat's, but I don't think it figures enough in the country to be a "major" religion. BoArthur 17:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Since Russian is listed as a minority language, it stands to reason that R. Orthodoxy would be a minority religion. Benkarnell 21:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

That would be my guess, too. —IJzeren Jan ^Uszkiełtu? 21:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

agree, i put it there by a mistake, it is clearly important, but minor religion Jan II. 12:32, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Flag and CoA request

I'd prepare my proposals of Nassland Flag and CoA as a result of Jan II request. In my opinion there shouldn't be black frames of blue circles and stripe on the flag, rest is almost identical to Jan's II patterns. I hope you like it ;-) Follow by white rabbit 13:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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imho, the tiny black strips (contour lines) were there to make the colour difference a bit more prominent, so i would prefer them to be there, but am open to discussion. do you like it without the black strips? the CoA looks cool. btw, since friday, i will be now 14 days out off i-net. later i will ask you also, dear white rabbit, to remake also my historical nassian insignia. Jan II. 17:42, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

As fare as I know, vexillological correctly there shouldn't be contour lines, unless there is a Coat of Arms on the flag. The question arrives are those three blue circles and stripe CoA's elements or flag figures. In most cases *here* flags have heraldic background representing CoA's colors and even some figures without the couture line (Poland, Czech Rep., USA); includes whole CoA (colonial flags, Spain, Hungary); have nothing to do with CoA (France, UK, Greenland). But there are some cases where CoA or Emblems take its background in earlier existing flag (Bahrain). So you need to decide. I will make all u want. As for historical insignia just link me them and I will do my best ;-) Follow by white rabbit 21:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

ok, so let us presume that the blue strip and the three blue circles are emblems, so may have the contour line ;) i know, i am twisting it a bit (in fact not much, it really may be seen as symbols from CoA put on a flag) just to satisfy my weird aesthetic feelings, but i really do not like it without it. and here the link to nassian symbols, there are few links also on the bottom of that page to further archives of symbols (first two in military are still empty). if you improve any of them, i would be happy. litiiphiiem Jan II. 06:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I've just updated Nassland flag image. The only difference with yours flag is lack of contour line around whole flag witch is totally unacceptable and I won't change that ;-). As for those historical emblems and flags I will remake them but I need some time now because of my other activities (my holidays is due to end so I need to make some prepares). Follow by white rabbit 09:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

thanx, i agree completely with the lack of the outer flag contour line. and for the rest of the emblems, do not worry, i will be now at least 14 days out and even then, i am not in a hurry, i am thankful for any help with the graphics ;) Jan II. 11:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)