Talk:Alberto Gonzalez

Lago Grande has been part of Alta California since the beginning...that's why there is a no-man's land along the Colorado/Rio de Sangre. BoArthur 00:41, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

Marie Gabrielle specifically gave up all Tejan claims on the region following the Restoration. Thus, it seems logical to suppose that Tejas was doing something there--even if they said they were just defending their own borders. Zahir 08:44, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

Barry? BoArthur 18:19, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

From the Lago Grande article: While the wars that have devastated the landscape in the past 100 years are currently in a lull, skirmishes and squabbles between Tejas, Alta California and Louisianne have flared over the past, as all sides claimed at one point some or all of the territory in question. Zahir 19:45, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

"Claim" when I wrote it wasn't meaning actual possession, though. Sorry that it was confusing. I'll chat Barry up tonight and see what he thinks about it. BoArthur 17:24, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

Again, I don't see it makes much difference whether Tejas actually claims Lago Grande or not. Seems to me there'd be military operations at the border either way--and I carefully refrained from hinting just what they were doing in the area. Protecting the border? Gun-running to the rebels? A little of both? Neither one? Zahir 19:08, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

From what Barry and I have always understood about the Colorado, it was a sort of Maginot's Line, not much coming and going. I'm sure there may have been forays along some of the lesser defended parts. If you wanted to hash out the details with Barry, I think that would be a good idea. BoArthur 19:59, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

Zahir: A border patrol does not equal a tour of Lago Grande. There's simply no way he or any Tejano soldiers could have done a tour of duty there without being chased down by AC patrols, filled with hot lead, and sent back to Tejas in a pine box (or plastic bag). Doobieous 20:18, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

Okay. Before I edit the article accordingly, do you have a sense of what Tejas has/had been doing in the region, i.e. where their border touches that of Alta-California (with Louisianne so close)? Zahir 20:25, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

Louisianne sold arms to both sides discretely, but indiscriminately. BoArthur 21:56, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

Perhaps Tejas did as well, but neither so discretely nor so indiscriminately? Anyone know what the name of the part of Tejas next to Deseret, btw? Zahir 06:29, 13 October 2007 (PDT)

Apache, according to the article. It's the westernmost of four provinces. Benkarnell 13:12, 13 October 2007 (PDT)