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Why as some of the pope's numeral received a final "J" ? --Marc Pasquin 09:05, 17 February 2006 (PST)

That, and I believe, seeing as how the pope *here* recently passed away, there should be a new pope. Seth 20:25, 26 May 2006 (PST)
Uh, why exactly? IB may follow our world closely, but it doesn't necessarily have to mirror the same events Doobieous 18:39, 26 May 2006 (PDT)
Yes, but the pope *there* is nearing his 85th birthday this June. He's a bit old, and isn't playing a very large part in Ill Bethisad anyway. I believe a new, younger, and more vivid pope should come to power. Seth 20:42, 26 May 2006 (PST)
I don't get it. If the pope is in fine health, then why replace him with a younger pope? 85 doesn't necessarily mean he's got one foot in the grave, and the other through the threshold of death's door. If he's near death, sure, but should we go about killing characters in IB just because we think there should be a fresh, exciting, younger version? Doobieous 18:47, 26 May 2006 (PDT)
Well, no. And anyways, I said "I believe," not "we absolutly need." Seth 20:51, 26 May 2006 (PST)

Well, the guy is 86, which is mighty up there when it comes to age. I don't think it too unwieldy to suppose His Holiness might kick the bucket before too long. On the other hand, there's no particular reason to think he'd die in anything like coordination with John Paul II. Zahir 19:09, 26 May 2006 (PDT)
As of late 2009, the current Pope of Rome, John XXIIJ, is actually 89 years old and in failing health. He's recently been diagnosed with pneumonia, although prior to now he's been in fairly good health. Zahir, would you e-mail me off-list since you've been the biggest participant on things Catholic aside Padraic?

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the link to the papal states out of ib-wiki ( is dead (ie. error 404). Jan II. 07:58, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! It's now fixed. The content at that linked page was moved to Papal States. Elemtilas 16:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Alexandrian Orthodox Footnote

I was wondering if I could change "highest" to "most exaulted" in the small mentioning of the Alexandrian Orthodox Christians. Just a tiny nitpick, so this isn't an absolutely neccessary change. Misterxeight 23:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. Is there a reason why? The terms are synonymous after all, though I guess "most exalted" sounds a bit fancier. Elemtilas 02:19, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, "respected" is better than exalted. I just looked up the denotation of the word, and it still implies power. I asked for respected because technically any given Patriarch has no more power than any Bishop, Metropolitan, Archbishop, Primate, etc, BUT we (the laity) as well as the clergy pay the Patriarch so much more respect. Misterxeight 02:33, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

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