Talk:Chinese East Africa

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The Chinese only briefly controlled East Rhodesia (the vicinity of Great Zimbabwe) in the 20th century (from about 1949 to late 1998 or so). By 2003, CEA had lost control of that region to victorious Commonwealth forces. [PB]

NOTE: I moved the following from the main article to the discussion page for historical purposes:

(That CEA consists of "a large inland territory" is almost certainly an overstatement. I think it most likely that this should not be the case -- CEA should probably consists of little more than a coastal strip with some inland territory.) This leaves some room for someone interested in Africa to come up with something. Almost certainly, England will have taken Rhodesia, up to Lakes Nyasa and Mweru like *here*. Perhaps a greater Christian Ethiopian Empire could have evolved in the region?[PB]

Perhaps I might lost some of the discussion about the CEA. But I'm wondering, why the victorious forces in the aftermath of the Great Oriental War allowed China's successor states to keep the CEA? Wouldn't it be plausible the winners to take this territory as new colonies or mandates from the LoN? I'm thinking in what happened to german colonies or japanese overseas territories after the World Wars *here*, for example. Perhaps there were mandates or foreign military occupation after the Great Oriental War like, it happened to China itself, and later the CEA returned to chinese new countries. Anyway I think the post-war developments need some explaination.--Pedromoderno 00:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps it was an attempt by the victors to keep the new Chinese states focused on something far away that one state would not focus on a reunification attempt. It is better to have your enemies hands tied far away then have them all cleaning their rifles near each other, especially when their total combined population is nearly 1 billion (if not 1 billion already) Seth 08:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, this was a territory that had its first Chinese presence in the fifteenth century. The coasts, at least, probably feel as Chinese as the streets of Beijing. It made sense to keep it Chinese in some sense, though I'm surprised it was made an awkward condominium instead of an independent nation. Benkarnell 13:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a chinese independent nation in Africa could put in danger european interests in the continent. Possibly among those chinese colonists could exist resentment against europeans (and against newborn african nations like Katanga) and having them (I'm referring to chinese) their own country they could sooner or later start claiming their lost territories. As CEA became a condominium didn't became a sovereign independent nation and so possibly wouldn't be allowed to have its own military forces.--Pedromoderno 23:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's possible the Chinese in Africa wanted to stay part of China, though it would make more sense for the Chinese to do what the descendants of British colonists did in the late 1700s *here*. Misterxeight 15:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


It has come to my attention that this article and France, both pending review, disagree on whether Mayota/Mayotte is under the jurisdiction of CEA or France. There are three options to resolve this:

  1. Declare the island part of CEA
  2. Declare the island part of France
  3. Stage a stand-off Argentina vs. UK style and then declare a winner

What do you guys think? --Gwaell 19:48, 3 March 2021 (PST)

So, I have done some more research, and I realized that the Comoros Islands became part of the new nation of Zanzibar shortly after the Great Oriental War. Because France was an allied power who presumably sent some of their forces to fight China, I proposed on the Zanzibar article that Mayotte would be given to France at the conclusion of the war. Then, to explain Zanzibar's distant relationship with the new EATO, I proposed that an incident would occur where Zanzibar would try to reconquer the island with their new allies in the EATO, but in this act they would be permanently excluded from certain privileges within the organization. However, this is all simply a proposal, so please describe your ideas if you have any to resolve this matter.