Template talk:RTC

Shouldn't there be overseas territory Venedic West Africa in Template? Follow by white rabbit 11:35, 12 March 2006 (PST)

Added it Abdul-aziz 13:43, 12 March 2006 (PST)

I don't want to come across as overly critical or something, but do we really need a template like this? All these places are already linked to from the RTC article, and I think also from Veneda and Lithuania. In other words, I think it's redundant.

Besides, until now, only one province has actually been described, and frankly, I don't have the intention of writing articles about each individual RTC province. As I generally object against templates that consist almost only of red links, I'd rather have them as straight text than as links. Which of course pretty much invalidates the template itself!

I have of course contemplated the possibility of making a template like this myself. But for the reasons I stated above, I never did it. That was a conscious choice. Frankly, I don't want this on "my" RTC page. Please don't feel offended.

What cóuld work, OTOH, is a template more along the lines of this: a portal-like template providing links to all related articles. Instead of linking mostly to non-existent articles, it could link to áll RTC stuff, including persons, cities, media, historic events, etc. But I'm not sure if I would be very much in favour of that either: it would be a lot of work to maintain it, and those articles can easily be found through our category system either. —IJzeren Jan ^Uszkiełtu? 05:41, 13 March 2006 (PST)

However, it could be changed to be more like the France template, which (at the time of wrighting) has links to only 2 departments, the rest being only text. Therefore, when each new article about a province is written, the template can be updated. --Sikulu 06:00, 13 March 2006 (PST)

Except that a template like the French Depts one is pretty useless IMO. After all, the purpose of a template like that is to make it easy to navigate between the underlying articles; if there almost aren't any, that template is pretty much beside the point. —IJzeren Jan ^Uszkiełtu? 13:43, 13 March 2006 (PST)

It seems to me that similar templates exists for most countries, including those that has just a few articles about provinces (I plan to write more articles about the RTC provinces). I like red links myself, as they are good reminders to me what else I still could write, and as well it is easier than changing black text into links everywhere only after you create an actual article. And hm I didn't actually add it on RTC page, so it is not there. Abdul-aziz 06:09, 13 March 2006 (PST)

Well, they dó exist for a number of countries, and I have to admit that in several cases I don't really see the point of them. The French Depts. being one example. But then, everybody here is free to fill in the pages about his own stuff as he sees fit. And yes, I saw you didn't add it to the RTC page. Sorry for that.

As for the red links: well, that remains a matter of taste. If you plan on writing articles about all Lithuanian provinces, then I have no objections at all against red links for them. But I'm pretty sure I am not really interested in having articles about individual Venedic provinces, so at least in their case I'd much prefer not to have red links to them.

Another issue is the English names. I admit that I have never thought of English names for the Venedic provinces. But since I never use their English names anyway (and nor do you, given the title of Žemaitija), I think it would be better to keep the native names. It's not at all self-evident that every RTC province would have a different English name anyway (except perhaps that they might drop the diacritic marks). If you don't object, I'll change that.

But again, Abdul-Aziz, all this is by no means intended as criticism of any kind of your work. On the contrary, it has been excellent on all fronts! It's just that I am not too fond of templates in general (perhaps because I am a relic of the plain-text-only era). But speaking of templates: why wouldn't you try making a template for all your Lithuanian stuff? There's so much of it by now that I am already losing track of it! ;) —IJzeren Jan ^Uszkiełtu? 13:43, 13 March 2006 (PST)

Um, with a template, doesn't every example of that template get updated if the source is updated? After all, that's the whole point, isn't it? --Sikulu 06:16, 13 March 2006 (PST)

Yes, you are right. I was more talking in general that in case an article is started if no red links were made from all the mentionings of the subject new links would have to be made. With templates it is easier of course, and yeh I guess, we could turn it into the style the French Departments template is in. Abdul-aziz 07:55, 13 March 2006 (PST)