Talk:Republic of the Former French Congo

I would think they would drop the attachment of France the first chance they got, much like Zaire *here* BoArthur

Ehh... As I recall, Luba, Lunda, Mongo-Kongo, Azande Chiefdoms, the Centrafrican Empire came from the former French colony called Ubangi-Chari... at least, that's how I was writing it when I wrote the stuff about this part of Africa... where's the French Congo name come from?

I think (but could be completely wrong) that someone at one point probably attributed that name as a calque of "belgian congo"--Marc Pasquin 17:23, 29 November 2005 (PST)

Yes. Another messy thing in our Africa discussion. I uttered the idea of a "Batavian Kongo", an equivalent of Belgian Kongo *here*, which could also make up for the fact that Batavia didn't have Indonesia *there*. At last we concluded that it wouldn't be realistic, so French Kongo is essentially the same thing as French Kongo *here*, while most Belgian Kongo consists of a bunch of native statelets. Luba, Lunda, Azande etc. were left untouched. The Batavians ended up with a small portion of land (I can't even recall the name right now) near the mouth of the Congo river. French Kongo, along with Gabon and a few other places (IIRC) were once part of one French Africa, but don't ask me for details about that. Didn't you participate in the discussion as well? I have some vague recollections... --IJzeren Jan 06:26, 30 November 2005 (PST)

Another thing, did Vissarionov institute 5-Year Plans? That was Stalin *here*, and I didn't know that that carried over *there*. BoArthur

I admit that I haven't given much thought to economic policies during snorist times. I suppose 5-year plans are not unthinkable. --IJzeren Jan 06:26, 30 November 2005 (PST)

About the name

Why is a country named "French Congo" not a part of France? That's too confusing. Either this should be a sliver of the former colony that stayed loyal to France like what happened in Guinea, or it's just "The Republic of Congo," to distinguish it from next-door Kongo down south.

I'd like to point out that "British Columbia" *here* is not british but a province of Canada and that "North Mecedonia" is the name of a country despite the lack of another country called "South Macedonia". Things are not always neat and it is quite possible that the name "french congo" was kept due to the main language spoken in that country as opposed to (Dalmatian speaking) Kongo or that "French Congo" is simply the short version of the country's full name: "The Former French Colony of Congo" in a similar manner to *here* North Macedonia formerly being known officially as "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)". --Marc pasquin 04:47, 20 November 2019 (PST)

I'll take "Former French Republic of Congo." Fair compromise, quick turnaround time. Everybody wins. What would that be, "Ancienne République Française de Congo"? Misterxeight 07:38, 20 November 2019 (PST)

The problem with that formulation is that "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)" was called that because subdivisions of Yugoslavia were called "republics". This means that "Former yugoslav republic of...." refers to the fact that it *used* to be a "republic that was a component of Yugoslavia" and not a reference to it being *currently* a republic or to it being part of a "Yugoslav republic". So using "French Republic" might be a problem but if you want to avoid using the word "colony" in its long name, maybe we could go with something like "Republic of the Former French Congo" ("République de l'Ancien Congo Français")--Marc pasquin 00:35, 21 November 2019 (PST)