I really like this, Marc. It's very IB.
I only went through to correct spelling errors (sooner or later, a redirect to "Junior Foresters" is going to have to be made!) and minor grammatical issues.
On that note, the major change I made was to the title of Badenev's book -- I replaced the verb with the noun forestry. If you really meant the verb there, then by all means change that back!
I also noted under similar organisations the Boy Scouts. I don't know if they are an "associate organisation" or not, but they do share some ecotopic ideals in common.
Elemtilas 19:30, 20 March 2007 (PDT)
- You know, I really do like this. It's the sort of thing I'd be interested in seeing a lot more development of.
- Some points on this;
- Is Scouts still gender seperated in England? I'd have preferred it if this is instead of Scouting instead of aswell as it, myself. For a start Pavel Badenev more or less *is* the name of Baden Powell and I had a cool idea for BP. (Although doppelgänger).
- I see!
- If indeed Scouts and JF exist side-by side, Could I presume that the JF are principally operating in countries with a lot of forest (i.e. not W. Europe), or is that wrong?
- I don't see why forests per se are a requirement. The JF could operate in wooded but not heavily forested areas or even in jungles. I think what's important about the JF -- and Marc brings this out very well -- is that it is an environmentally oriented programme. It just happens to have emerged and developped in a heavily wooded country!
- Would tribes in the NAL be on province level rather than national?
- Boy Scout councils *here* are regional in nature, though there is also a national structure. I don't see any reason why the JF structure would be any different in the NAL than it is in other countries, with the Tribe as a national level.
- I rather intended the JF to be the scouts counterpart on IB. Instead, england could have the Boys Brigade which *here* actualy predate the boy scout (It was one of BP's inspiration):
- In that case, perhaps the Boy Brigade can evolve into an organisation that melds the two. The reference to "Boy Scouts" is easily altered or removed entirely.
- as for the other questions:
- forresters could probably be adapted to other countries: the junior swamp dwellers, the junior desert caravaneers, etc... Its the respect for nature that the basis of their ideology, not the type of surrounding.
- Indeed, though we could only hope for less hokey names! Perhaps a name like Junior Outdoorsmen would cover all permutations and not intimate any kind of cultural slur?
- regarding the tribe, maybe condominium have more then one. Either that or the same tribe apply to all colonies/provinces and there's just a lot of clans in it. --Marc Pasquin 15:10, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
- I would suggest that a condominium territory have only one Tribe. Just because a country is divided between the authorities of two foreign powers doesn't mean every aspect of the people's lives should be so divided or have a dual structure!
- Marc, I'm sure you've thought up some sketches of uniforms and patches and the like? (Boy Scouts *here* love to trade activity and council patches -- I'm sure JFs *there* will be equally enamoured of the hobby!
- Elemtilas 18:32, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
Do you think maybe the Ecotopism Template belongs on this page? Or not? Should it be included in the Template, under "organizations" maybe? Zahir 14:38, 11 July 2007 (PDT)
Thanks for asking! BoArthur 15:31, 11 July 2007 (PDT)