Talk:James Wainwright

The successor is not Ben Nighthorse Campbell! Kyrmse 15:45, 5 Jul 2005 (PDT)

More of a head's up. I did some research and found some obscure conspiracy theories regarding the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagon *here* which I was going to expand and adapt into a full-blown conspiracy theory debate/industry about Wainwright's assassination. This would be the equivalent of how the deaths of JFK and Martin Luther King and RFK are viewed *here* by some. Complete with movies made based on various theories. Still doing reseach and putting together the details, but thought you'd all like to know. Zahir 07:12, 12 November 2005 (PST)

Please let me know if you would how my proposed article on Mr. Wainwright seems. Thank you. Zahir 18:42, 14 November 2005 (PST)

I like it. Especially the bits about "Mr Wainwright was something of a change for the nation after his two "glamorous" predecessors" and "In the wake of his murder, a great wave of sentimentality for Wainwright swept the NAL. A personality some commentators had called dull or pedestrian was now seen as humble and folksy". I think that's very well put, and indeed a very credible explanation for the reactions on his murder. Despite his his obvious lack of charisma, he might have been quite popular as the "ordinary guy from the street". In fact, if you ask me, it might even have made the shock effect even stronger: why on Earth would anybody want to murder a man like him? --IJzeren Jan 22:52, 14 November 2005 (PST)

Not to mention feeding even more into conspiracy theories. Clearly, he must've been more than meets the eye, after all!  :-) Nik 00:00, 15 November 2005 (PST)

Counting Down

In another seven days it'll have been thirty since I made this proposal. Just a head's up. Zahir 03:12, 7 December 2005 (PST)

Temple?

Wainwright was survived by his wife and their two children--Christophe and Marie (whose wedding in 1976 had been a spectacular affair in Philadelpia's largest Temple).

Protestant Temple? Or are you implying the LDS temple? Were his family converts to the LDS faith? BoArthur 18:51, 15 December 2005 (PST)

Zahir, can you expound on this? BoArthur 21:43, 23 February 2006 (PST)

Wainwright is specifically listed as a convert to Judaism, following his marriage to French Jewess during GW2. Zahir 22:01, 23 February 2006 (PST)

Right, but the quote above leaves me confused, because the Mormon Temple in Cherry Hill, Kent is called the Philadelphia Temple, and is the largest structure of the LDS Church after the main temple in Zarahemla, like the San Diego Temple *here*. When you said what I quoted above, what did you have in mind? BoArthur 22:10, 23 February 2006 (PST)

I was assuming that Philadelphia (i.e. the NAL's capital) has more than one Hebrew Temple, and that the General Moderator's daughter got married in the largest one in the city. Presumably Mr. Wainwright's children shared their parents' faith and so would marry in a Temple. Sorry about not answering this sooner but I believe I was on a train on 12/15/05. Zahir 22:18, 23 February 2006 (PST)

Probably. Wouldn't they call their meeting houses Synagogues rather than a temple? Since The Temple is in Jerusalem? (or what's left of it?) BoArthur 22:21, 23 February 2006 (PST)

Yeah, but they also call them temples. I pass several on the way to work every day. I also grew up six blocks from a Hebrew Temple in Pensacola Florida (very pretty building, btw). Zahir 22:24, 23 February 2006 (PST)

Though, without the destruction of the Jerusalem, I wonder if the terminology of Temple would've survived?

P.S., you're from Pensacola, Zahir? Me too! Nik 22:30, 23 February 2006 (PST)

I was raised in Pensacola after my parents moved there when I was five or six. Left for New Amsterdam...er...New York, after getting my degree at the University of West Florida. All together now...(singing off key) "ITS A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL/ITS A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL..."

Even graduated from Pensacola High School aboard the USS Lexington.

If a form of Judaism that did not [u]require[/u] worship in the Jerusalem Temple, then the Jewish Faith would be fundamentally different than from what exists today. Presumably the Levite Priestly Class still exists, but "Rabbinical" Judaism in some form probably also exists in IB. At least IMO. Zahir 22:35, 23 February 2006 (PST)

'Temple' is a common synonym for 'Synagogue', especially in the non-Orthodox movements of Judaism. Do we know what form of Judaism James Wainwright converted to? Anyway, a Jewish child being named "Christophe" is VERY VERY UNUSUAL, if not absurd. I've met one RL Jewish individual named Christopher, and he gets weird reactions all the time.