Talk:European Historical Maps

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1815

I'm missing Xliponia on the 1815 map! Kyrmse 05:08, 25 October 2005 (PDT)

I've found maps of the period showing that region free of the Ottomans. I'll make the change. BoArthur 18:28, 30 October 2005 (PST)

1914

Yes, I found a bug! ;) This map depicts Greece as a part of the Ottoman Empire, but according to the Greece page, Greece (at least the Peleponnesos) had been independent since 1863. --IJzeren Jan 05:12, 14 November 2005 (PST)

1939

This map misses the Ladogian Republic Jan II.

It'll be there in the final versions. BoArthur

Other Commentary

Mind you, Belarus should be Belorussia in 1939, but Belarus now.

Otherwise this looks perfect.

It'll be done for the final version

Ireland's name in English

I know this sounds as if I'm being really picky and everything, but Éire is Ireland's name in Gaelic, not English. It's incorrect to use it like that. It would be like referring to Germany as Deutschland or Greece as Ελλάς in English. Really. --Kgaughan 08:47, 22 October 2005 (PDT)

*mild cower* sorry! It'll be fixed in the final version.

Finalized version available to see

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Captions for Numbered Countries

All that is missing IMHO are captions for those countries too small to bear their own name, and which have been numbered (Xliponia - alas! - is one such case). Kyrmse 06:51, 31 October 2005 (PST)

Saugeais and Fenwick

You seem to have forgotten something. --Sikulu 6 Jan 2006, 14:31 (GMT)

Well, that's the tragic fate of small Countries That Have No Voice!

But seriously, they are on the map (as very small dots), it's just that their names are missing... —IJzeren Jan ^Uszkiełtu? 06:58, 6 January 2006 (PST)

No numbers though. --Sikulu 6 Jan 2006, 14:55 (GMT)

The Republic of Saugeais was founded in 1947. Elemtilas 09:19, 6 January 2006 (PST)

So, how come it's on the maps (as a dot) prior to 1947. (And why does it exist in the first place?) --Sikulu 9 January 2006, 15:54 (GMT)

Because yours truly didn't know the founding date. ;) It'll betaken care of in the next issue of maps. BoArthur 09:15, 9 January 2006 (PST)

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Saugeais was founded in the heat of the Second Great War, which wasn't ending until almost 3 years later? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. BoArthur

Should have said: *here* it was founded in 1947. *There*, perhaps 1950? Elemtilas 15:07, 9 January 2006 (PST)

Technicaly, it never ceased to exist. The reason behind its creation *here* was that the land was originaly given to monks as a fief and thus was "sovereign". Although the monastery eventualy closed, there was never any official revocation of this sovreignty (Altough obviously, it never presented itself like this outside of the odd jokes).

Its possible however that on IB the monastery never closed and it maintained some autonomy (maybe like monaco being a sort of protectorate or better yet, being run in a manner similar to Mount Athos) until absorbed France in the late 19th or early 20th (someone could find a suitable date). The chaos of the great war could have been a catalyst for renewed nationalism wich lead to retaking its sovereignty.

As for Fenwick, anyone know how it ended up on IB ? --Marc Pasquin 16:34, 9 January 2006 (PST)

Sounds like a plan, for Saugeais. Grand Fenwick sort of leaked through early on when IB was still a bit untamed. GF, of course, should remain on those maps since it was founded a very long time ago. Elemtilas 20:31, 9 January 2006 (PST)

Um... GF borders Helvetia, but the maps show that it is completly surrounded by France. Mistake? Seth 3:38 17 Sept. 2006

Based mine off a very old map that was drawn up by others, so it's been an error that's been apparently propagting for some time now. BoArthur 22:03, 16 September 2006 (PDT)

Italy

Italy needs to be updated to fit in with the information on its article page. --Sikulu 03:32, 24 February 2006 (PST)

Serbia

As it was agreed on Conculture list ([1]), Vojvodina in entirely in Serbia. --George D. Bozovic (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2006 (PDT)

Could you mark the area that's "offending?" so I can correct it? BoArthur 11:40, 15 July 2006 (PDT)