Talk:Assassination of James Wainwright

This should probably be moved to the James Wainwright article. Elemtilas

You think so? I was thinking probably the assassination itself was enough of a "subject" to warrant its own article. But I wouldn't object to combining them if that is the concensus. (Many thanks, btw, for adding to the article, IJzeren Jan. I'm in a weird head-space right now, and find myself veering between activity and lethargy. You understand why. I'm kinda pleased with how this turned out so far.) Zahir 11:55, 13 November 2005 (PST)

You're welcome. I enjoy working on articles like this. Please don't hesitate to make amendments to my text, too. And please correct my English! --IJzeren Jan 00:21, 14 November 2005 (PST)

I agree with Zahir. This is probably best as its own article Nik 18:10, 13 November 2005 (PST)

To me, personally, it doesn't really matter if this is part of James Wainwright or a separate article. It is surely long enough for a separate article, but in that case, the article about JW should be a little more substantial than it is now. Just my two dzienarzy. --IJzeren Jan 00:21, 14 November 2005 (PST)

Okay, I am amused and pleased to see folks adding to the list of suspects. Just like the real thing!

I've also changed some things about the James Wainwright article to make his policies and personality seem a bit more "alive." I think maybe there needs a little more in that direction. But I've also described initial reaction to his death, corresponding in tone to the murder of President James Garfield *here*. Zahir 08:13, 14 November 2005 (PST)

Questions/Comment

Is this meant to parallel the Ford assassination attempt *here*? Or is it just a compilation of every assassination attempt *here*?

I think this should be its own article, however, I think that you should have a blurb about it on the Wainwright page and link to it along the lines of For the complete article, see also: Assassination of James Wainwright BoArthur

It does already link from the James Wainwright page, but I think your idea of it being a "blurb" is a real good one.

The assassination is mostly based on the attempt on Ronald Reagan *here* but with a dash of RFK and a smaller one of JFK. Interestingly, the links between the Bush family and Hinckley family *here* are quite real. The "Order of the Skull" is based on the genuine quasi-franternity Skull-And-Bones. Does this work, do you think, as an event conspiracy theorists would just hang onto for dear life and never let go? Should it be toned down? Or made more mysterious? Zahir 19:05, 13 November 2005 (PST)

I would say toned down, somewhat, since Wainwright doesn't strike me as being as charismatic as others, eg JFK *here* I think that were he as charismatic as JFK and as controversial as well, he would much more readily migrate to more of a mystery. BoArthur

Okay, but tone down what precisely? Zahir 21:26, 13 November 2005 (PST)

I don't think anything needs to be toned down. Wainwright might not have been a particularly charistmatic leader like JFK, but since there was no JFK in IB, the effect might have been all the same. Who knows? Perhaps Wainwright wanted to leave the Americans a legacy more interesting than what he had done thus far. Perhaps he was preparing some far-reaching reforms in the last year of his office. Perhaps he intended a huge cleansing in the top of the CBI and the NIO? Perhaps he had discovered something interesting facts about his political opponents? Who knows? Besides, 1980 was an interesting year in many ways. --IJzeren Jan 00:17, 14 November 2005 (PST)

Samantha Cushing?

I was just wondering if she was based on anyone in particular or if her name had any particular meaning. Zahir 09:10, 28 November 2005 (PST)

Not at all. I just needed a name, and for some reason this was the first what popped up in my mind. --IJzeren Jan 09:15, 28 November 2005 (PST)

Counting Down

In one week, this proposal will have been up thirty days. Time for counter-arguments if any. Zahir 03:10, 7 December 2005 (PST)