Talk:Space Voyage 2245 Season Three

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Ground Rules

Some ground rules:

  1. Season Two must be completed. check
  2. Kmora Xikra Khan and the others of his immediate clan die in the movie, and a stable wormhole is created to another part of the galaxy. While the Zmorites are not completely destroyed, they will be out of comission for the better part of this season.
  3. The Assessors must appear in at least 4 episodes. They are a cross between the Q of Start Wreck and Terry Pratchett's Auditors. The goal of the Auditors and Assessors is one and the same.
  4. The Zmorites must be an ongoing threat, relating in the Movie at the end of the second season. Use them 2 times varying levels of importance in the story.
  5. The Zeniaks are like the Borg and must be a growing and imminent threat. Use them 7 times, varying levels of importance in the story.
  6. The Yrgoans are like the Vulcans (obviously)
  7. The R'Zikk must be further used in stories involving the struggle with the Zmorites and the Zeniaks.
  8. No principle characters can die unless you discuss it with me
  9. I would like to see the following story arcs develop: A) An imminent threat from the Zeniaks (2 episodes), B) Introduce a new villain, like the Romulan of Star Trek, and C) discovering new, friendly races.

Questions? Comments? I'll do the same with Season Four, when the time comes. I may also want to add some stipulations for when we start this season. BoArthur 14:24, 5 January 2006 (PST)

So, Is the movie at the start of, or at the end of, this season? Rule 2 seems to imply that this season follows the movie, but rule 4 seems to imply that it precedes Nik 20:58, 7 January 2006 (PST)
The movie precedes it. Just because the movie is over doesn't mean that the Zmorites are going to go away. They're just going to be on the back burner for a season or two as they find htemselves again, with the power vacuum that Kmora's death causes. BoArthur 21:30, 7 January 2006 (PST)
So, chronological order is Season 1, Season 2, Movie, Season 3? This line The Zmorites must be an ongoing threat, relating in the Movie at the end of the season was what confused me. I'll fix it.

Orion Arm?

We're in the Orion Arm actually. I would suggest changing it...possibly picking the Norma Arm or Scutum-Crux ( Milky Way ). Tell me what you think, and thanks for catching the error. Sorry, I'd copied the page from Season Two. BoArthur 22:52, 7 January 2006 (PST)

Should this page exist yet?

The main SV2245 page says The Third Season is in progress and the first airing is scheduled some time in March of 2006., so if the season hasn't aired yet, how can we have episodes up? :-) Nik 19:09, 8 January 2006 (PST)

I guess you can edit that....I don't have a problem with working out seasons three and four, mind. And we can always adjust things. And the movie doesn't HAVE to come in Summer 2006...I can adjust that, too. (I've been wanting to fix up that trailer, anyway.) BoArthur 22:00, 8 January 2006 (PST)

Ketsoqua

Three possible ways to go with them. They could be in some sort of relationship to the Zeniak, or they could be a background threat, in store for Season Four, when they defeat the defenses around the wormhole, and invade the Condominium, resulting in a war theme for Season Four, as the Condominium seeks to regain their territory. A third possibility is that the Condominium sends an invasion fleet to the Perseus Arm to fight the Ketsoqua on their own ground.

Or, the story arc can be cut out or heavily revised. Comments? Ideas? Nik 20:12, 8 January 2006 (PST)

I get a Dominion feel on this. I wasn't necessarily wanting that for the wormhole, but I do like the thickening of the plot. I think we should keep the plot going; I don't necessarily want the Condominium invaded, nor do I necessarily want them partnering with the Zeniak. I could see them becoming a major threat for the first part of the Fourth Season, with ramifications for the end of the fourth and the foreseeable fifth season. I'm thinking that the war will have to end either by the destruction or pacification of the Ketsoqua, or the destruction of the wormhole by Condominium forces. But then, I think we can discuss the way it works as we go along. BoArthur 21:58, 8 January 2006 (PST)
You know who this all reminds me of? The Thals versus the Daleks, both from the planet Skaro on Doctor Who! Perhaps the Ketsoqua are not so much an enemy as someone problematical--akin to the Centauri or Narns on Babylon 5? But wouldn't Radu Normandie love to cast them in the role of villains that he defeats/destroys!!!! Zahir 22:13, 9 January 2006 (PST)
I fear that Nik was intending something much more sinister. He's eeee-vil; he eats the froo-its of the dev-eel! BoArthur 22:27, 9 January 2006 (PST)
Hello, Pot. My name is Kettle.  ;-) The Ketsoqua are definitely evil - they've been "cleansing" numerous worlds after all, but I wasn't planning to make them a signficant threat. Though, I like Zahir's idea ...
I've got to ask. What precisely are the "froo-its of the dev-eel"???? Pineapples, mangoes, miniature bananas? What? Zahir 23:00, 9 January 2006 (PST)
I don't think we can share that with you, Dear Doctor Zahir. It would blow your mind, as you are a good and honest man, not scheming and conniving like Nik and me. BoArthur ;)

Return to Perseus

When you say that it's a G-class star system, is that the international astronomy standard *here* or is it from Start Wreck? I've avoided using anything that would equate to them, as I'd rather not draw their ire. BoArthur 18:02, 9 January 2006 (PST)

Star Wreck <heh> used the same essential standards for describing stars as *here* (unlike the entirely imaginary classification system for planets, such as "Class M"). You can remember them as OBAFGKMN (Oh Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Now). F, G and K stars are yellow dwarfs, like our own sun. M stars are red dwarfs, the most common. O, B and A stars are giants. N stars are Neutron stars. Zahir 18:43, 9 January 2006 (PST)

Progress so far...

  • We've had the Assessors mentioned/appear twice. Need two more.
  • We've had the R'Zikk figure in two episodes.
  • The Zeniaks so far have figured in six episodes so far. At least one more episode needs to feature them.
  • The Zmorites have figured only once. Once more is required.
  • We also have a new "bad guy" race in the Ketsoqua.

See? Some of us DO pay attention! Zahir 11:43, 14 January 2006 (PST)

The Assessors, Zeniaks and R'Zikk have each made another appearance. Zahir 09:09, 15 January 2006 (PST)
So, we need one more appearance of the Assessors? Nik 11:46, 15 January 2006 (PST)
That is how I read it. Plus another for the Zmorites. Zahir 12:43, 15 January 2006 (PST)
Right! One more Zmorite appearance DONE! Zahir 08:41, 19 January 2006 (PST)
Zmorites by me! Extra Credit! ;) (And the Zeniaks, indirectly) BoArthur 10:00, 19 January 2006 (PST)

Beyond, Part Two

Indiana Jones meets Predator? BoArthur

An echo of Forbidden Planet methought. Zahir 16:37, 19 January 2006 (PST)
Ah. Before my time, that. But I do know "Danger! Will Robinson, Danger!" BoArthur

Final Episode/Cliffhanger?

I would like to leave this last one for Zahir. I almost finished out Normandie's role in SV2245, but I thought I would let Zahir show him out, when ready. We need to have the assessors appear once more, and I think it would do well to do this as a cliffhanger, through, into the next season, which we'll start work on a little later this year. Comments? Suggestions? Rebuttals? BoArthur 10:08, 19 January 2006 (PST)

a "striggered" nova? or a triggered nova? If this is a specific idea you have, that's fine, but if you meant triggered, it's a typo. :)
Ahem. So it is FRELLING typo, okay? *whimper* Zahir 21:29, 19 January 2006 (PST)

Season Four/New Series

I think that a crossover episode, with the premier of SV2245 and followed by the pilot of the new series would be highly in order at this juncture. Comments? BoArthur 21:22, 19 January 2006 (PST)

I was thinking that the the last episode could be the crossover? What do you think, Zahir? BoArthur
Well, as I wrote it, the last episode does bring up characters I wanted to use for the new series, so it is a crossover of sorts. Magnus and Chyanna, plus Professor Gideon were three of the characters I wanted to use. Mind you, perhaps the series premiere should be a crossover with SV 2245? Zahir 08:13, 20 January 2006 (PST)
That's what I had in mind, a two part episode that starts with SV2245 and completes with the pilot of the new series, with characters from both series appearing on the others' show, but each show's characters being the primary focus. BoArthur 11:12, 20 January 2006 (PST)