Talk:Gothic Rotunda

Alright, so this is the proposal for Gothic Rotunda, which I've set down as the main script style in Alta California and Montréi. I liked the look of it, and also, because it did last in places until the 18th century, and Alta California *there* was settled by the 1600's there's no reason it couldn't have been kept as the formal script *there*. I've also decided that the hand writing of AC and Montréi are based upon it (and i've even developed a cursive style based upon it too). I would imagine this script fell out of favor in the Iberian Peninsula as it did *here*.

So, feel free to go in and edit any errors. I'm pretty sure I've got the basics down pat, but you never know.

Also, does anyone know where I can find authentic versions of Rotunda? It's really hard to find any versions that aren't modern interpretations (as in commercial fonts). I've even seen discrepencies between letter forms (such as a Roman style Z where I'm sure the original is a numeral three form, for instance). Here's a page showing "rotunda" but i'm not sure it's really authentic:

http://hem.passagen.se/kalligrafi/Kalligr/stilar/rotunda.htm

(it's written in Swedish (I think), but they have an example of the script)

- Doobieous 17 July, 2005 23:43 PST

It's Swedish alright. As for authenticity, the letters T, U, V, and Z are wrong: lowercase T is short (i.e., as tall as lowercase O); Rotunda does not distinguish between U and V; and as you have mentioned, Z should have a numeral 3 form. A better sample of Rotunda can be found here. I must say, I like your proposal and I'm looking forward to seeing how your cursive form of Rotunda looks like. Does it bear any resemblance to Spitzschrift? Boreanesia 00:59, 18 Jul 2005 (PDT)

I Have added in some differences, such as a differentiation of U and V (which if not instituted may cause some confusion, that only context would clarify, and I think that there would be some innovation unless writers were doing especially formal "archaic" looking texts).

The cursive form is a bit simpler than the Spitzschrift script, as it doesn't try to follow Rotunda too closely (and rotunda is a lot less fancy than Fraktur anyway). But there are a few similarities, such as a similar form for long S, uppercase G is similar (although less connection on the right hand side), uppercase X is similar, but without a small cross bar and curved flourishes at the tips of the arms, upper and lowercase Z's look close to the Spitzschrift forms. - Doobieous 18 July, 2005 03:07 PST

The font XiBeronne (from [Pia Frauss]) comes near - it has the 2-shaped r and the 3-shaped z, although I think the t is a little tall, and I haven't been able to check the long and short s's. Kyrmse 07:52, 18 Jul 2005 (PDT)

You may also try looking for Rundgotisch. Kyrmse 08:09, 18 Jul 2005 (PDT)