File talk:Greek Air Force Roundel New.jpg

I like the clearer colours of this version. But I did rather like the white outer circle beyond the blue in the original. Also, you might want to match the red to the slightly darker colour on the red quarters of the national flag rather than this scarlet red. It might visually unify the national insignia a little more than they are currently. Just my tuppence-ha'penny, of course. - Geoff 20:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

The funny thing is, there was a white behind because Microsoft Paint doesn't like white backgrounds on images, so the roundel with a white background I copied was turned black. However, I could just put a black outline around an even newer version, to show there's a white outer-stripe. As for the reds, on Microsoft Paint all there is is the bright scarlet shown here, and a dull red that looks good on nothing.

Misterxeight 21:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Making the horrible MS Paint do what you want it to

You can open two copies of MS Paint, one with the Imperial flag and one with the roundel. Use the Select Area tool to grab a little of the Imperial flag red and cut&paste it into the roundel. Then use the dropper tool to get the colour from that to paint the lion with. After that you can just delete the little red square in the corner, or you can move the square onto the main body of where you want that colour to be. Saving in .PNG format (use the "Save As") helps with MS Paint, too. - Geoff 22:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, Geoff! I just have to ask, the dropper tool, where is that on MSP? Misterxeight 22:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

On the toolbar, left column, between the eraser and the pencil. Little white stick with a black bulb on one end - it looks like a pipette or dropper for dispensing eye medication. Left-click grabs whatever colour the point is on as the foreground colour, right click as background colour. - Geoff 04:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

In my nearly 2 years of using that I had no idea what it did, thank you, Geoff it was a Godsend! Now that I can have colors scale with each other, I made a roundel that incorporated the Byzantine gold on the flag as well. I made this roundel, though I do risk with different colors on each side the roundel becoming the BMW logo, and leaving the norm of roundels. Of course in IB there doesn't seem to be unwritten laws for roundel styles with there being a triangular and square insignia in the East. Let me know what you think. Misterxeight 05:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Here

I prefer the all blue ring. Four colors seems like too much for a roundel. Benkarnell 13:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Myself likewise. You might of course try making the white background Byzantine gold, but then you run the risk of looking Romanian with the blue as well. But it would probably look great with a red ring, the gold background and the red lion. If is were me, though, I'd probably go with the red lion, white background and blue ring, tied in to the old Greek flag and insignia. As has been said, military insignia are basically conservative. - Geoff 01:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I think I've finally done it. Geoff, I took your idea of the more regal red over the scarlet for the lion, a white background, and a blue outer ring. And now...

Here it is.

Misterxeight 02:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)