File talk:Antonia guelph arms.jpg

I changed this because I believed I've found the source of the name "Guelph," namely one of two Italian factions from the early days of the Holy Roman Empire. The Guelphs were derived from the Bavarian Welfs whose arms were "gules, a horse rampant argent." From there I designed an arms for the Ducal House of Guelph, of which this is a variation. Zahir 21:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

maybe you could invert the green and yellow field so you don't have 2 metal touching.--Marc Pasquin 16:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I tried some variations as you suggested, but there was till metal touching metal, and ultimately the results were ugly. So I went in a different direction altogether. Zahir 17:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)