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This province already has a flag. I'd be currious to hear about the symbolism though.--Marc Pasquin 06:49, 1 Oct 2005 (PDT)

My bad. I should have checked before making *all* my proposals. Actually, come to think of it the flag I designed might be ideal for a kind of pirate or corsair nation--the hourglass as a warning your time is nearly up. Hmmmmm....gotta think about that. Hmmmmm.... Zahir 07:16, 1 Oct 2005 (PDT)

You might want to be careful when doing flags for nations that already have owners. Of course you can propose your own, but that nation may already have a flag proposed. Personally, i'd consult with the nation owner first. -- Doobieous

Here i am! ;-) Interesting flag, although very much not what i've imagined. Any ideas for tweaking the current Mueva Sefarad flag to make it more aestheticly pleasing? What was the symbolism behind this flag proposal? ~ Steg

First of all, I apologize for not double-checking. As for the symbolising I came up with--from what I read, here was a colony/nation/province of corsairs basically. I saw their flag as part of the way they would remind themselves to be always and forever dangerous. Black, white and red have always been an aggressive combination. The hourglass I took as a symbol of death--a warning, as it were as well as a celebration of Mueva Safarad's power. The current flag to me looks like the flag of South Africa *here* which has been (accurately) described as a flag designed by committee. Were it up to me, I'd lose the white and blue and green altogether and get the following...

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Zahir 17:33, 2 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Don't worry about it. That's really interesting... i had no idea that Mueva Sefarad gave a such a "Barbary States" impression! I always thought of them as more sneaky and hiding, hoping that no one notices them, but if you DO notice, you're out of luck!

I actually based the flag on the new South Africa one; it's supposed to be, similarly, a relatively new flag (from the time of Unification with the NAL) that represents the entire Muevasefaradí population.

blue = jews

one red = beothuk and other natives

other red = christians

green = muslims

black = hiding, dark past

white = peace

gold = unification, hope for future

Some of the colors also have geographical significance: forests, ocean, ice, etc.

Maybe something like your black-red-gold flag could have been the flag of independent Mueva Sefarad... what do you think about changing the middle yellow bar into a (maybe wider?) bar of blue, with thin white on either side to set it off from the red/burgundy? And maybe the black being something other than a triangle... like a vertical bar, maybe? For some reason the triangle has never looked good to me, although i haven't been able to get away from it. Steg

If you'd rather avoid the triangle, then a black stripe seems the way to go. But then, it seems to just scream for some kind of charge on the black. That of course brings up the possibility of something green, like a crescent moon maybe? Anyway, that's a possibility.

Zahir 23:03, 2 Oct 2005 (PDT)