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Much as I like these symbols, but aren't they a little too close to each other for three completely opposite political parties? --IJzeren Jan 11:15, 21 November 2005 (PST)

I was going with the idea that everyone claims the bat, but the actual colors are different. Voivode: blue and gold, Socialist: gold and red, Conservative: black and white. But if folks agree they're just too similar I'm willing to change it. Zahir 12:00, 21 November 2005 (PST)

If you want to keep the bat, maybe just use different style or design or even just parts of it: head and wing outline around the party's name, oversimplified design forming the party's initials, etc...

To illustrate my point, this is 2 sets of political logos, the first from canada the second from Australia. all use the national symbol in different ways:

--Marc Pasquin 16:02, 21 November 2005 (PST)

I think that a hybrid between Marc's suggestion and yours are possible, as well, the older parties simply using the versions you show as their official flag, but for advertising and public banners, they use a version more like Marc's. Thoughts? BoArthur

Fine with me. I'll do some work on it. Can anyone please provide what might be the appropriate initials for the Oltenian Socialist Union and Conservative League of Oltenia? Zahir 17:43, 21 November 2005 (PST)

Hm, I don't know Romanian, so your guess is as good as mine. I'd say something like:

• Uniunea Socialistă Olteniană
• Liga Conservatorului din Oltenia.

Not sure about the precise forms, but I'm quite positive the initials would be USO and LCO. See f.ex. this wiki page. --IJzeren Jan 22:35, 21 November 2005 (PST)

Okay, how about these...?

• Olt soc2.jpg

  Oltenian Socialist Union (USO)

• Olt voi2.jpg

  Voivode (royalist) Party

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  Conservative League of Oltenia (LCO)

Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Zahir 06:32, 22 November 2005 (PST)

Very nice. I just have a slight problem with the USO flag: to me, it looks more like the flag of a region than the flag of a party. I'm by no means a flag expert like Marc, but my impression is that political parties rarely have a real flag; most of the time, it's nothing but the party logo in flag form. I like the star. But in your place I would replace the bat with the name of the party. Socialists usually don't use national symbols, but rather international working class symbols like the star, the hammer and sickle, or a rose. Besides, too many bats already. ;) --IJzeren Jan 07:13, 22 November 2005 (PST)

I see your point, but one of the ideas I wanted to develop was the idea that all three parties attempt to make the bat their own. Yet each needs to be instantly recognizable, even to the color-blind. More in keeping with the theme and what you mentioned (i.e. a logo that can take flag form rather than being a flag) how is this? Zahir 07:53, 22 November 2005 (PST)

Okay, I can see yours. Much better this one! Yes, very nice indeed. One minor point left: I think the red field on the left can as well be omitted. That way, you place the logo in the middle, which IMO would be more effective (but hey, that's the socialist in me speaking ;) ). A 1:1 flag could be an option. --IJzeren Jan 13:03, 22 November 2005 (PST)

Like this last one. Maybe they have a designer on staff, would explain the better then average design. I'd do the same to the royalist one though, You what to be sure people know who you are supporting. Either that or have them use the actual royal banner (what many european monarchist do *here*). --Marc Pasquin 17:01, 22 November 2005 (PST)

Voivode Party

A small reworking of the Voivode logo. The premise here is that the Conservatives and Voivodes each have two symbols associated with them--the Conservatives have their initials and the sideways bat, whereas the Voivodes have the thunderbolt as well as the bat-and-crown. The forms we see here are how the parties tend to use their logos as banners, with vertical band on the left. The Socialists have only one logo, but they maintain the same aesthetic when they use it as a banner--plus of course their party colors: Voivodes (Blues), Socialists (Reds) and the Conservatives (Blacks--although their rivals sometimes call them "Whites" to taint them with the Snor). Zahir 18:29, 22 November 2005 (PST)