Talk:Heraldry in the MR

The zodiac is heresy as its divination. Misterxeight 21:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Tinctures

What tinctures does the MR consider "normal"? The usual Western set of gules, azure, vert, purpure and sable for colours, or and argent for metals? Do you use the Eastern system where sable is considered a fur and may be placed on a colour or a metal? What furs are allowable - there are some quite bizarre variations of ermine and vair to be found in some of the books - I think my personal favourite weird fur was erminites: black ermine spots on white, with eack ermine spot having a couple of red hairs in it. - Geoff 21:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Questions

The way you have this worded, it excludes a lot of heraldic possibilities. For example, according to the text, no undivided fields are permitted, an armiger must use his/her zodiacal sign as the supporter, the crest is a reiteration of the main charge, and so on. I understand that some of this is required in order to make the cadency system work, but what you have is a very rigid system without a lot of artistic flex in it.

What brings this on is that I'm trying to blazon a COA for the Monastery of St. Thomas, and what I had in mind isn't going to be legal according to what's written. I can rework it to make it fit, but it won't be what I had in mind. I wanted a camel as the supporter, for a start, and I was going to have a single-colour field. Like I said, though, redesign is not a problem.

Actually, the cadency system is irrelevant for institutional arms, as institutions don't beget offspring. You could allow single-colour fields and a lot of things for institutional arms that you can't allow for individuals if the cadency system is going to work.

Anyway, that's my tuppence-ha'penny. - Geoff 23:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)