Talk:Hagia Sophia

I was thinking we could just destroy the Islamic relics.   Mr.X8 Talk Contribs13:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

That's more or less what I was banking on -- that the victorious Greeks would want to strip Holy Wisdom of all the (beautiful) Islamic art and objects that are presently there. Sort of a little act of vengence. That's why I think the curator (I need your help with his name and the name of the museum he works with) felt some need to rescue what might otherwise be destroyed. Perhaps he can manage to get only some pieces out before the rest are destroyed or sold off?

I was thinking perhaps that the pieces he managed to get safely away could be "lost" for a few decades and be rediscovered sometime in the next couple years, creating an opportunity to study relics from the ancient Islamic past of Greece.

I would imagine that the Greeks would essentially scrub away every trace of Islamic influence on Holy Wisdom, knock down the towers and Islamic outbuildings and fully restore the church to its Byzantine glory. I'm recalling some ancient Spanish churches that were similarly converted to mosques and then reconverted to churches. In many instances, the Islamic influence and artwork was left intact. I think it would be both sad but entirely understandable for all that to be entirely erased -- after all, Holy Wisdom is the cathedral of Orthodoxy! What do you think? Elemtilas 03:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I suppose we could create a small museum completely dedicated to the Islamic artifacts. I mean just because we're reclaiming what's ours doesn't mean we have to be intolerant in doing so :) Misterxeight 18:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

How Interesting Padraic

I like how you thought of one unbiased Musuem curator (Dmitrios Diamentopolous how about) saved the Islamic artifacts in 1945 to put them safely in storage. In 2007-2008 when Constantine begins to buy war machines he can take the Islamic artifacts, and sell them! Sorry for preverting your idea, but it's a must if Greece wants to be first world country. Misterxeight 16:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't apologise -- the result is rather what I had hoped for. Sadly, selling a few old baubles will not make Greece into a first world country. It's this sort of thinking that keeps third world countries firmly in the third world. It's shortsightedness and cultural sabotage on a grand scale. And it's being perpetrated by the Greek king himself! Elemtilas 01:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Well less tanks will be bought (20 seems good for now) and 95% will be invested into The Reconstruction.

Write a decent proposal. No one-liners. Answer all the likely questions and give some detail. Send it to Conculture for discussion. Don't start up any new articles here until we get some basic work done on Greece first. Elemtilas 17:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)