Talk:Fifth Monarchy

Won't this offend other religions & atheists? Misterxeight 00:34, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

*here* the "in god we trust" motto of the USA offend some other religions & atheists so there is precedent for offensive behaviour.--Marc Pasquin 16:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

And I believe the other monarchs (British, Scandinavian, Native) often behave with religious overtones. It's part of living in a monarchial society. Benkarnell 16:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

It's also part of living in a not-entirely-secular society many inhabitants of which are religious and folks in general are not afraid of religion or religious issues. I doubt that IB is so PCified that folks are so concerned over this kind of hyper "offense". Also, I think the talk of the FMM being a separate denomination and God being the literal monarch of the unaligned provinces is a little over the top. I think of Fifth Monarchism more as a diffused belief among many different denominations. Sure, some denominations were probably solid FMM, but others must surely have at least some FMM in their ranks!

I do like the fifth throne idea in the college, but am sure it would have to be an early tradition in the college rather than a later concession. I don't think the Empty Throne has a staff (any more than God does in this case). Far from being a dead letter in the modern period, I think Fifth Monarchism could have evolved into and directed the country as a whole towards the kind of monarchical republicanism the NAL is noted for.

I agree: no political party as such, and no one wants to change the traditions surrounding the Empty Throne, should anyone so ineptly bring the issue up in the Convention! Would the Empty Throne have to be off to the side? Why not up on the dais with the other Thrones? I wouldn't think they're usually occupied on a day to day basis anyway -- just on ceremonial occasions. Elemtilas 03:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)