Talk:CMAEC

Questions:

• Did the European Federation already exist in the early 1950s?
• What other countries could have been members of the CMAEC? I'm thinking not directly of SNOR satellites, but countries that maintained especially good relationship with Russia.

--IJzeren Jan 07:01, 8 November 2005 (PST)

Maybe list associated members in a diferent colour (like yellow or something). --Sikulu 16 December 2005, 14:00 (GMT)

The problem is that there weren't really any associated members. As far as I know, at least. I mentioned that other countries attended the meetings, but I've no idea which ones. --IJzeren Jan 06:33, 16 December 2005 (PST)

How about some of the Chinese States, or other states near to Russia. Maybe Ethiopia, Bohemia, Armenia, Nassland and/or the RTC could have some sort of membership. Did any other of the CSDS members (apart from Bulgaria), Albania, Greece etc. have SNORist regimes installed after GWII? Alternatively, make the pro-SNORist puppet juntas associated members, and the proper SNORist style reigimes as proper members. Did the internal republics of Russia exist at the time? If so, maybe they could have a form of membership. --Sikulu 16 December 2005, 14:39 (GMT)

Chinese states: Uyguristan and Mongolia were satellite states and therefore full members of the CMAEC.

The RTC and Bohemia were neutral, but it is not impossible that they have attented certain meetings. Same goes for Lithuania. Any kind of associate membership would be out of the question, though.

Bohemia behaves quite like Swiss *here*, they prefer individual economic treaties and not being organised. The uttermost adventurous and desperate act for Bohemia was entering European Federation December 2005.Jan II. 08:12, 12 January 2006 (PST)

Ethiopia, Armenia: possibly. We know too little about especially the latter.

Nassland: that's up to Jan II.

Nassland is since 1953 part of Scandinavian Economical Union, so I think they had no interest to join CMAEC. Co-operation treaty with Russia from 1953 approved it. Being also part of Baltic league appeals not to became part of other economical organisation, moreover, puppeted by Russia. Jan II. 08:12, 12 January 2006 (PST)

Well, but that bring us into trouble with Estonia and Latvia, which were full members of both. For that matter, we should look into what the Baltic League actually looked like during snorist times. My assumption has always been that the League was inactive during those years, but that its membership never changed. Perhaps it was active, and Latvia and Estonia simply weren't members during those years? —IJzeren Jan ^Uszkiełtu? 08:55, 12 January 2006 (PST)

May be Baltic League simply let them be members, but silent/inactive/formal. Some kind of hope, that things will change. Russia might let Baltic League to do its things, once it leaves her puppets aside. SNORist Russia might still think about to conquer BL one day. Or it was part of Visby. Jan II. 02:22, 13 January 2006 (PST)

Snorist states full members, junta associated: I don't see the sense of that. Why?

Republics: they were established in the 1960s, but they weren't really much more than provinces with a very limited degree of autonomy (which was retracted later). Before the fall of the SNOR, Russia was a unitary state. So, although I can imagine that their representatives attented certain meetings, I doubt where they would have any official status within the CMAEC other than as regional subdivisions of Russia. --IJzeren Jan 07:03, 19 December 2005 (PST)

Stalin still tried to get UN seats for all of the member SSRs of the USSR over *here*. Besides, has the actual structure of the CMAEC membership been sorted out yet? --Sikulu 19 December 2005, 14:58 (GMT)

Yes, but that was mainly for propagandastic reasons, plus perhaps the additional advantage of having more votes that way. And don't forget: the Soviet Union was a federation, which cannot be said of *there*'s snorist Russia.

As for the structure: all I know is in the article. Obviously, the CMAEC is based on *here*'s COMECON. --IJzeren Jan 07:22, 19 December 2005 (PST)

What's the latest word on Armenia anyway. If the were ex-Russian, the chances are that they could have been SNORist for a while. Since Ethiopia is an Orthodox country, maybe this might lead them to be a bit pro-SNORist. --Sikulu 19 December 2005, 15:20 (GMT)

Armenia is unclaimed and undeveloped. And I'd prefer to keep it that way until someone really wants to work with it.

And possible candidate for a very friendly relationship with the CMAEC would be Greece, though. --IJzeren Jan 07:37, 19 December 2005 (PST)

Wasn't Greece communist at the time though? And what about the other members of the CSDS (When was it disolved, anyway?)? --Sikulu 20 December 2005, 14:16 (GMT)

By the way, the reason I included a diferent form of membership for pro-SNORist and SNORist-style countries was that no membership criteria were mentioned. --Sikulu 20 December 2005, 15:32 (GMT)