Talk:Alyaska

Languages

Are the languages listed official languages or just spoken languages? Is there an official language? Are Brithenig and Japanese also written in cyrillic? Nik 22:07, 30 December 2005 (PST)

Just to imagine languages like Brithenig and Japanese expressed in cyrillic script is quite an interesting thought... RoMex 03:13, 31 December 2005 (PST)

As I recall, English is the majority language, and presumably official language as well. I don't recall why it is written in (modified) Cyrillic, though. Elemtilas 06:47, 31 December 2005 (PST)

Oregon English is in Cyrillic as well. Nik 17:57, 31 December 2005 (PST)

Questions

Interesting, what would be the capital? Novoarkhangelsk, as "here," before US purchase? And would be Alyeska in sort of Cold War with SNORist Russia? And, would be a nuclear power? ( Imagine, cat and mouse game of Russian boomer v. Alyaskin!)

User:Lordziba 19:01, January 2nd, 2005 (PST)

Don't know about the capital, but it's unlikely that it would've been in any kind of Cold War, as Russia would've been more concerned with Chukotka, which lay between Russia and Alyaska (though I'm sure many Russian nationalists would've liked to take Alyaska, but they'd've had to take Chukotka first). And there's no way a small nation like Alyaska could've been a nuclear power Nik 21:44, 2 January 2006 (PST)

One more thing, rubel cannot have 120 kopeks, only hundred, its always been like that.

I would imagine it was that way when the first Russian settelrs arrived, but as the Alyaskan Ruble is now pegged to the NAL pound at £1=4 rubles, thus 1 ruble = 5/- (60 pence), it would make sense to adopt the division 1 ruble = 120 kopeks (hence, 1 kopek = ½d) Nik 22:32, 2 January 2006 (PST)

Nah, I do not buy this, course of currency it's one thing, the consistancy another, so at exchange place instead of one ruble, they would give a ruble and twenty kopeks, tradition, despite "here" or "there."

The problem is this: when you peg your currency to another currency, you want not just the main unit but all the smaller units to fit with that other currency as well. If they decided to keep the Russian 1/100 value for the kopek, that would mess with the exchange of any amount less than a ruble. For whatever reason, they have pegged their ruble to the American pound (probably because there are SO many Americans in Alyaska in the first place). In order to make the kopeks work out right, they had to pick a different ratio. This sort of thing is done all the time. By doing this, they made Alyaska a de facto member of the Commonwealth's economic union. Very savvy move. At this point, the 120k ruble is pretty much accepted as QSS. What's left is to explain how this came to be, rather than argue that it "can not" be that way! Cos when you get right down to brass tax, my anonymous friend, NONE of Ill Bethisad can really be that way! It all comes down to artfully explaining how it is that it is so! Elemtilas 20:33, 5 January 2006 (PST)

Ok, be as may be, what about the military? How big is it? And what is relation to Chukotka?

Ziba, January 6, 2006, 1:27pm, PST.

Flag

I'm wandering about the modified version of *here*'s Californian flag for Alaska. --Sikulu 5 January 2006, 14:35 (GMT)

What would you like to know? I can say it has nothing to do with California *there*. Elemtilas 09:10, 5 January 2006 (PST)

Obviously. It's just that American *filibusters* (or whatever) instituted the Bear Flag when they went to California. --Sikulu 6 January 2006, 13:52 (GMT)

OK. Obviously, the bear flag *there*, had nothing to do with American filibusters, who never existed *there* in the first place. Especially in that region of North America, you really can't rely on US history at all. That's Alta-California, and is quíte different from California *here*! Elemtilas 09:35, 6 January 2006 (PST)

So, which leads me to ask, how in the world would Alyaskan politicians come up with *that* design for their flag? I can understand a Grizzly as they're as common in Alyaska there as they are here (in *there's* AC Grizzlies are a major threat as they were never exterminated as here). As for the star, a I'd said, the star was used by American's here in reference to the fight for Tejas' independence from Mejico, so it's a rather specific symbol. No, I think the flag would probably be very different. Doobieous 18:01, 6 January 2006 (PST)

Could be for the north star, or any number of other reasons. Perhaps they wanted to set themselves apart from the eagles found on Russian flags and symbology. Elemtilas 18:16, 6 January 2006 (PST)

Well many answer could be find for the presence of the red star but the fact that alyeska is a communist state pretty much give itself to it.--Marc Pasquin 16:04, 7 January 2006 (PST)

Early History of Alyaska

Copied from Talk:Oregon: "I really don't see how so much of the population (of Oregon) would be Russian. There weren't even a 1000 Russians all told in all of Alaska in the mid-19th century, and out of those, only a couple dozen were women! See this article for some interesting figures. No, I don't see how Alaska would be a great influence until something more economical comes along for more Russians to go there. I suspect that Alaska won't become anything more than a backwater until the XX century. I dó think Sitka / New Archangel should be the capital of Alaska *there*, as it was *here* til 1906. There were cèrtainly more Brits in Oregon than Russians in Alaska by that time!"

I think the idea of Alaska being a gulag state (in the way Australia was a penal colony *here*) is a good one, and that most of the non-Natives are Americans makes sense given the gold rush. I doubt that Russian is anything but an "official" language, though -- something spoken down in Sitka, and in the other predominantly Russian areas. The admixture of Russian culture with American/British must be quite interesting!

Would like to propose that New Archangel / Sitka continue being the capital of Alyaska. Elemtilas 16:15, 22 February 2006 (PST)

If alyeska stayed russian, why wouldn't there have been russians moving there ? Just because *here* the russian population was small doesn't mean that *there* it would be too. I don't think we should fill alyeska with anglo-saxon (and why not cambrian, scandinavian, scottish, etc... anyway) unless there is a very good reason.--Marc Pasquin 16:46, 22 February 2006 (PST)

I'm not saying more wouldn't have moved there eventually. You need guards for the gulags, after all. But I don't think it would be any easier for Russians to get to Alaska *there* than *here*, and Americans are so much closer. And it's already been determined that a large segment of the non-Native population áre Americans (regardless of their ethnic heritages). Until the early XX century, the actual numbers of Russians in Alaska puts them at a clear disadvantage that the Americans would easily overwhelm them in any kind of gold rush. Elemtilas 19:37, 23 February 2006 (PST)

Political Status

I must admit I had always assume that it *was* communistic. Manly because of the "soviet" part ot its name.

So, what is it ? Socialistic ?

--Marc Pasquin 15:15, 27 February 2006 (PST)

"Soviet" simply means "council" in Russian. As I understand it, it's a decentralized state, based on the original theory behind Soviet Democracy, and is multi-party, with Socialists and/or Communists as only one of many parties Nik 15:36, 27 February 2006 (PST)

So, is Bavaria (etc.) also a Soviet Democracy *there*? --Sikulu 01:30, 28 February 2006 (PST)