Talk:Zodiac

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Wait a sec, why would the zodiac be different from *here*? That's pre-Roman! Nik 15:10, 3 January 2006 (PST)

Actually, the specific forms and names of the western Zodiac came to be somewhat "nailed down" in the Middle Ages. At least that is my story and I'm sticking to it. Zahir 15:16, 3 January 2006 (PST)

most of the signs were already fixed in babylon of the 7th century BC (same ideas but different names) altough they had 17 signs. The assyrian and the greeks inherited them but droped the number to 12 (either combining constelation or discarding those outside the ecliptic). With our main Point of Departure in roman time, its doubtful such a change could have happened. At most, you might have stlightly different names which are in any case slightly different from one language to the next.

Of course, one of the conculture of IB could have some native zodiac-like system of divination. Another avenue if you want to make up something might be to have some mystic trying to synthesise various sytems to create "a more precise one". --Marc Pasquin 16:35, 3 January 2006 (PST)

A syncresis of the Western and Chinese zodiacs, perhaps?  :-) Nik 16:53, 3 January 2006 (PST)

I understand that the Western zodiac has never been adjusted for shifts in the relation between the earth's orbit and the constellations in the night sky. Perhaps that has happened there. - AndrewSmith

Even if it did, the shift would only affect the dates associated with the signs, it woudln't change the signs themselves Nik 20:08, 3 January 2006 (PST)

All I can say is WOW! If I hadn't already set the zodiac for The World, I would like to have borrowed thìs one...Hmm, perhaps it could be used in another land with an old zodiacal tradition...? If it should be disallowed for IB, could I have it second hand? ;)

In any event, I do think it odd that the zodiac should be so different. That definitely predates all possible PODs for IB. I mean, England has the plough as an alternative for the great bear, but I don't know if they had a whole different zodiac. Elemtilas 20:55, 3 January 2006 (PST)

Justification?

Was there such a proposal *here*? And what reason is there for those particular constellations? Nik 18:35, 18 January 2006 (PST)

Honestly, this is simply a piece of indulgence on my part. The zodiacal signs didn't mean that much to me, and I've long had an itch to redesign them so they'd match my own imagination more. As far as I know, there was no proposed different set of zodiacal signs *here* and, as I said, coming up with this is a total indulgence on my part. Zahir 23:12, 18 January 2006 (PST)