Talk:Gold Coast

An old email exchange on the Gold Coast:

To: conculture@yahoogroups.com 
From: "Kristian Jensen"  
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:20:08 +0100 
Subject: Re: [conculture] IB: Africa 

> > 3. Guinea. I would think this was an FK colony.
> 
> French *here*. UK had the Gold Coast and Nigeria
> (*there*'s East Gold Coast and Kamerun, which are
> Dalmatian).

Actually, the Gold Coast *here* was apportioned between Denmark 
and UK before 1850. I would think that the Gold Coast *there* 
would remain apportioned. This is because Scandinavia *there* 
would not be in the same economic situation as Denmark was *here*, 
forcing Denmark to sell "Danish Guinea" - as it was then called - 
to Britain.

Since IB Africa is still being "discovered", I would wager that 
the Gold Coast *there* remain partly in Scandinavian hands and 
partly in FK hands. I suggest that perhaps the coastal regions 
could be Danish, since it is inhabited by the Fanti people, who 
were allies of the Danes *here*. The inland regions of the Gold 
Coast could be FK possessions since these were inhabited by the 
Ashanti people, who were allies of the British *here*. The city 
of Accra would be a special case. It could be the capital of both 
the Scandinavian and the FK possessions. I see this happening in 
one of two ways; either it could a condominium between Scandinavia 
and the FK, or it could be two completely seperate towns (one 
Scandinavian and one FK). Accra *here* was actually two different 
towns that were established by the Danes and the British. It merged 
*here* to form Accra after the British bought the Danish possessions 
in 1850. A bit of trivia: Accra *here* has a massive Danish fortress 
called Christiansborg, which is now the official residence of the 
president of Ghana.

-kristian- 8)

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To: conculture@yahoogroups.com 
From: "Frank George Valoczy"  
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:59:43 -0800 (PST) 
Subject: Re: [conculture] IB: Africa 


On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Kristian Jensen wrote:
> >
> > French *here*. UK had the Gold Coast and Nigeria
> > (*there*'s East Gold Coast and Kamerun, which are
> > Dalmatian).
>
> Actually, the Gold Coast *here* was apportioned between Denmark
> and UK before 1850. I would think that the Gold Coast *there*
> would remain apportioned. This is because Scandinavia *there*
> would not be in the same economic situation as Denmark was *here*,
> forcing Denmark to sell "Danish Guinea" - as it was then called -
> to Britain.

Well Gold Coast *there* consists of what is *here* Ghana and Nigeria
(with Togo in between, *here* Togo and Benin), and it is Dalmatian from
the time of Austria-Dalmatia. Western Gold Coast (Ghana) was the first
Austrodalmatian colony in Africa, followed by Mali (now Mali and Upper
Volta), Togoland, West Gold Coast and Kamerun. Kongo came last. In short
Austro-Dalmatia had basically what was French West Africa *here*, plus
Gold Coast, Nigeria and Guinea (which were English *here*) plus Kamerun
which was German *here*.

>
> Since IB Africa is still being "discovered", I would wager that
> the Gold Coast *there* remain partly in Scandinavian hands and
> partly in FK hands. I suggest that perhaps the coastal regions
> could be Danish, since it is inhabited by the Fanti people, who
> were allies of the Danes *here*. The inland  regions of the Gold
> Coast could be FK possessions since these were inhabited by the
> Ashanti people, who were allies of the British *here*. The city
> of Accra would be a special case. It could be the capital of both
> the Scandinavian and the FK possessions. I see this happening in
> one of two ways; either it could a condominium between Scandinavia
> and the FK, or it could be two completely seperate towns (one
> Scandinavian and one FK). Accra *here* was actually two different
> towns that were established by the Danes and the British. It merged
> *here* to form Accra after the British bought the Danish possessions
> in 1850. A bit of trivia: Accra *here* has a massive Danish fortress
> called Christiansborg, which is now the official residence of the
> president of Ghana.
>
> -kristian- 8)
>

This is very interesting, unfortunaately it doesn't fit with what we
already know about Africa, namely the Austro-Dalmatian colonisations.
Perhaps what you describe could be applied to *there's* Guinea. OTOH
Guinea *there* could be a purely Scandinavian colony. And perhaps
Scandinavia is also involved in the equatorial area too (Gabon *there*).

----ferko
Ferenc Gy. Valoczy

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To: conculture@yahoogroups.com 
From: "Kristian Jensen"  
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:11:23 +0100 
Subject: Re: [conculture] IB: Africa 


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Fra: "Padraic Brown" 
Til: 
Sendt: 24. november 2002 17:13
Emne: Re: [conculture] IB: Africa


> --- Kristian Jensen  wrote:
>
> > Since IB Africa is still being "discovered", I would
> > wager that 
> > the Gold Coast *there* remain partly in Scandinavian
> > hands and partly in FK hands. 
> 
> I like that.
> 
> > The city of Accra would be a special case. It could be the
> > capital of both the Scandinavian and the FK possessions. I see this
> > happening in one of two ways; either it could a condominium
> > between Scandinavia and the FK, 
> 
> I like that, too. I tend to forget that Scandinavia is
> something of a Power *there*.

I like both of these too. Unfortunately, Frank had the Gold Coast already 
under Austro-Dalmatian control. But that was before I joined the IB project 
and we discovered quite a few things about Scandinavia since. So, in what I 
wrote above, what if I replace the FK with Austro-Dalmatia, so that it is 
more compatible with what's established in IB. Then you could say that the 
West Gold Coast becomes partly Scandinavian and partly Austro-Dalmation. The 
coastal Fanti people can then remain allies of the Dano-Norwegians like 
*here*, while the inland Ashanti would then be allies of the Austro-Dalmatians 
*there* like they were with the British *here*. In other words, Scandinavia 
would then control most of the coast of the West Gold Coast, while Austro-
Dalmation controls the rest of the West Gold Coast. This way, it is also more 
parallel with the developments that occured *here* as well as parallel with 
what Frank has already establish *there*. (IIRC, one of the rules for IB was 
parallel development between *here* and *there*). Accra could then be a 
"Condominium Capital" of both the Austro-Dalmation West Gold Coast and the 
Scandinavian Gold Coast. I like the idea of joint rule. "Accra, Condominium 
Capital" -- has a nice ring to it, methinks.