File talk:HRE FLAG royal.jpg

one more question regarding the flag, where did you get the crown? from what I know it should be a close one like this:

http://flickr.com/photos/sftrajan/483552741/

and looking in wikipedia, there is an image of the crown of the holy roman empire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Crown_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire

and finaly a page on the heraldic representation of the crowns of germany:

http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Regions/Allemagne/Couronnes.htm

--Marc Pasquin 15:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The actual crowns used in heraldry vary quite a bit, and not always with a great deal of consistency. For the last few centuries, British heraldry (for example) has been using a pretty standard series of crowns denoting specific ranks. Elsewhere, things are a bit more lax. My take on it is that an Imperial Crown by its very nature is more than a simple coronet, requiring a fairly elaborate "base" and "points" as well as an arc-piece mounted with some kind of orb as well as an actual red lining. Plus of course jewels. The design of such would depend upon the styles of the day, the tastes of those being consulted, etc.

This crown was a manipulation of two different crowns I got from various heraldric clip-art sights. I wanted a design that looked quite imperial, impressive, as well as vaguely Eastern European. Keep in mind this flag (and the accompanying arms) are modern versions, in use (presumably) since the end of GWII. Just as I based the double-headed eagle on the single-headed eagle design of modern Germany rather than the more elaborate eagle of the Holy Roman Empire or German Reich *here*, so I presumed a different crown design would have been used to signify in some ways a "new" Empire. That was my take on it, anyway. Zahir 16:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Still the version you chose looks like the crown of a marquis with an ark, not very imperial in my mind. If you want to design something new, at least have it so it look more imperial then a king. Maybe have the "blocks" used in the Holy German one.--Marc Pasquin 17:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I do not agree, but then IB is hardly a one-man-band. What do you think of this new version, which simply uses a "classical" German Imperial crown? Zahir 17:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I would personnaly prefer the antique Holy Roman one or something based on it. Just my taste.--Marc Pasquin 17:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look tonight after I get back from work. Zahir 18:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I like the new version, makes it more distinctive.--Marc Pasquin 12:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Over the course of the next week or so I'll replace the crowns in the various Imperial COAs. Zahir 15:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)