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If you would like to write up the initial proposal about the Conch Republic, that would be awesome. Be sure to include that they did it under the auspices of the Irish occupation force, that they survived the war without much destruction and that they are eager to restore their tourist industry. We'll see what the group says, then. BoArthur 18:14, 14 March 2006 (PST)



Ok, I will, but one question... How? All I've ever done, sadly, is talk in the discussion ring and made a few comments in Lla Dafern. I may have missed something, but I'm afraid I don't know how to write up an initial proposal, sorry. Give me a quick rundown and I will. I have a few ideas I could play with maybe... and what is Citoyen? Sorry, I just don't know much (but i do love Ill Bethisad!). Wait, never mind. Figured it out. But how should I go about this? Write ({Proposal}) and write that the Florida Keys, or Key West, with help from the Irish, have established themselves as a nation. In order to regain some stability from having been occupied, they are asking permission to join CaL. Is that fairly simple thus far?

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First things first, Citoyen means Citizen, a term that was used rather than Monsieur and Madame and Mademoiselle during The Revolution in France *here* and Louisianne as well, *there*.
To create a proposal for the Conch Republic you would first create links to it, and the most likely source would be from the South Florida page. You'll see I've gone in and added a link to your/our proposal. It's showing in red; you'll go in and write the text for a proposal *there* using the {{proposal}} tag. Incorporate everything that's been discussed as well as your vision for it, and we'll all participate in refining it until there's concensus and it's accepted as QSS.
I would advise that you write up the proposal first and then paste it into the article when you've got it ready; this will stem questions that could be answered by waiting for the finished project. You could also use (temporarily) the {{wip}}tag that will mark it as a work-in-progress so you can finish writing it up.
The article link is República Conchesa. I've actually gone in and set up some stuff to help you get started, like the basic country template. I'll keep tabs. Message me on my talk, or here, and I'll keep tabs. ;) Questions? Comments? Bonne Chance! BoArthur 18:49, 14 March 2006 (PST)
One other thing...rather than saving 20 times (like I did, and I can see you do too) I would use the Show Preview button. :) BoArthur 18:53, 14 March 2006 (PST)
You'll also want to take into account what Padraic and Nik have said on the Florida War page and tailor your proposal to match. For that matter, look at Talk:República Conchesa! Hope it helps...I'm excited to see what you come up with! BoArthur
Perhaps he meant "Citroyen"? A post-revolutionary term for an Organgeman? ;) Yes, I've added a wee bit to the Florida War article. That preview button is a Wonder of the Age and no mistake. But I always end up with several typoes and things I'd wished I'd said different (or not at all). Don't be afraid to got back in and edit again, but do so judiciously! Elemtilas 19:51, 14 March 2006 (PST)

República Conchesa

Seth, don't hesitate to replace anything I've added in to Republica Conchesa since it's still in the proposal phase and subject to change. I look forward to see what you have in mind! BoArthur

Ok. I've added only a little, and I'm pleased with the progress everyone here has done with it. I also believe that we may also want to do some stuff now with mainland South Florida, if we intend for it to be similiar to the HRE (which I believe the Carribean nations and the world would want). Seth 3:14, 21 April 2006 (PST)


How does one update the map so that the Conch Republic is shown with the CAL Maps? Seth 4:06 18 March 2006 (PST)

Well, first of all, the CaL is not yet a sure thing, and its final constituency is not entirely finalised yet. It will be at least two years to sort out those issues, and a further two to three beyond that before the CaL comes into actual existence.
The Conch Republic is a bit of a strange beastie. Being part of the original territory of Florida, there may be some resistance to allowing it into the CaL. If they're keen and play it the right way, they might get in during the early discussions. Altering maps to reflect the addition of the Conch Rep. might be a tad premature, however! Elemtilas 22:16, 18 March 2006 (PST)


I was looking at the Batavian Kingdom page and saw it was a member of the European Federation, but when you click on it, you edit it. Can someone update that page, or is it deleted? Seth 11:28 18 March 2006 (PST)

No one's ever written an article about the EF. We don't really know much about it, other than that it has a unified currency and isn't as centralized as *here* EU Nik 21:40, 18 March 2006 (PST)
What we know about the EF can be found on the Currency Page. It's got the basic outline of the EF's history there. Elemtilas 22:17, 18 March 2006 (PST)

Hey, BoArthur!

Large, I know. This is a fairly acurate map of Jefferson City. Also, the city *here* extends slightly over the bridge into Les Plaines, only to have the airport there. *There*, it wouldn't have it. Seth 8:13, 18 April 2006 (PST)

I think the airport still exists, but it's surrounded by NAL suburbs...I'll work out a regional map as well to let you know. Remember that P-s-M is a very large city *there*. BoArthur
I would imagine there'd be two aerodromes, one in Paris-sur-Mizouri, and one in the NAL city to its north Nik 15:07, 19 April 2006 (PDT)
Yeah, I was thinking the same, and possibly, even, three, with two main ones and some "ancillary" aerodromes around the city. How big are helicopters, one wonders... I could see heliports all over the city to take people to the aerodromes... BoArthur 15:27, 19 April 2006 (PDT)
Trams take care of that pretty tidily. The NAL is pretty heavily into rail transport. If these cities are as big as all that, they probably have a pretty good tram and maybe subway or El networks as well. Elemtilas 17:46, 20 April 2006 (PDT)
True, trams would pretty much take care of traffic to and from the aerodomes.Seth 03:10, 21 April 2006 (PST)
I meant that P-s-M wouldn't have the Aerodome that's over the Mizouri River. I didn't say it wouldn't have an aerodome. And it is still quite creepy to me *here* that the city *there* is larger... Seth 12:02, 19 April 2006 (PST)
I'm not saying that the Aerodrome would be Louisiannan territory, but I think that it could be called the P-s-M aerodrome all the same. I'm sure that LA and the NAL have an agreement about the Aerodrome... And as for it being larger, it's an order of magnitude greater, isn't it? It's like 1 or 2 million people in an area that is here around 100k, right? BoArthur 15:57, 20 April 2006 (PDT)
Actually, 45000 people. Seth 23:03, 20 April 2006 (PST)
So, 1500% larger. :)

News Article

Thanks for that! Can I ask that an RTC plan not show up until some time near October or November? I've got some plans that I would like to do, and I need the time to bring them to fruition. BoArthur 07:03, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Oh sure. I kept it vague for that reason: I knew someone would want a plan. Seth 20:42, 10 May 2006 (PST)
Yes, we're all very conniving, I must admit. ;) BoArthur 14:05, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Harry Turtledove?

I'm a large Turtledove fan, so I'm wondering if there is a write up for a Turtledove-like author?

None as yet... BoArthur 15:21, 18 May 2006 (PDT)


I would make sure that any and all work you do is coordinated with Jan Havlis (Jan II). Bohemia has had no others interested in it in years, and while I would guess he would accept the help, I would bounce ideas off him first. BoArthur 19:32, 8 June 2006 (PDT)

Will do! Seth 3:34, 9 June 2006
So, your familly roots lie in Bohemia? Where, may I ask? And, if you have any ideas regarding Bohemia, we may discuss Bohemian concepts ;) Appart from things you may find on Bohemian extenal web-page, I work, although veeery slowly, on Bohemian armed forces, its history and I would like to proceed little bit with Moravian things with Benct. Note, there are also Czechs in IB, living mostly in Lithuania and in NAL. Jan II. 23:01, 8 June 2006 (PDT)
If what my grandfather told me, near Moravia and Austria. And I will attempt to help out, though I don't know exactly how yet. Seth

On the matter of Micronations

Nice, putting Saugeais in like that! If you all don't mind, I wouldn't mind doing a write-up on Seborga, though it isn't recognized by anyone (except, if even possible, Andorra, Saugeais, and maybe one other small nation. Seth 7:55, 9 June 2006

Make up a proposal and place it on Lla Dafern and/or Conculture! Elemtilas 15:24, 20 July 2006 (PDT)


I am still interested in the riots that are occuring (if they are) in Croatia. What is Dalmatia doing, how many riots since the speech, etc. Seth 10:26, 13 July 2006


Pages have been locked, and I can't put my signature on the Conch Republic or Karpatia.

Indeed. It seems there is some kind of new order. You should ask for the right to edit at Talk:Lla Dafern as I have done previously. Abdul-aziz 01:31, 20 July 2006 (PDT)
Some pages were locked due to the incidence of incessant spam. There is no activity in the protection log for either of those pages, so I'm not sure why you aren't able to edit the page. Are you logged in?
There is no "new order", only the "old order" which is all of us. I'm increasingly being put off by your separatist attitude, Abdul. If you find pages that are blocked, kindly drop a note in Lla Dafern, so they can be unblocked, thank you! Elemtilas 15:23, 20 July 2006 (PDT)
Indeed I will. The problem that existed here was that Seth seen ll the articles as locked ones because he at the time did not have the rights of editor. Anyways, now these problems are solved. Abdul-aziz 08:46, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
Seth, "signing" is completely unnecessary, and frankly, ugly. Don't worry about it. BoArthur 19:10, 20 July 2006 (PDT)
Fine, I won't sign. Sorry for the hassle. Seth 5:29, 21 July 2006
You've also been assigned "editor" rights (along with everyone else). There should be no further "locked pages" issues. Please let us know if things don't work right! Elemtilas 04:55, 21 July 2006 (PDT)

Other Celts

Besides Armorica, are there any other major regions that consider themselves Celtic? Like Austurias or Kemr?

Well, I'm sure Ireland and Scotland consider themselves Celtic. Kemr is probably a little more divided. They certainly understand themselves to be the inheritors of all that is Romanitas, so hence they are among the Latin nations. But they also recognise and celebrate their Celtic heritage. I wouldn't be surprised if there are Kemrese who consider themselves to be Celts rather than Latins. The Bretons see themselves, even now, as Kemrese (or at least as one nation with the Dumnonians), though they've been occupied by France for a long time. The recent coronation only served to solidify the division between themselves and the rest of France proper.
I bet the Asturians probably celebrate their Celtic heritage as well, but I don't know if they would call themselves Celts.
We'd had some talk from time to time about the possibility of a pan-Celtic organisation (Organisation of Celtic Nations, or something like that), but never solidified anything except that Armorica, Ireland, Scotland and Kemr would certainly be members.
Elemtilas 05:03, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
I wouldn't mind seeing a loose, semi-political entity called the "Council of Celtic Nations." Yes, Scotland, Armorica, and Ireland would certainly be members, but in view of Kemr's history, they might, but only on special grounds. Seth 22:00, 21 July 2006

The Tiny Twenty

I haven't actually read or seen "The Mouse that Roared" myself, but I read the Wikipedia article on it after reading about Grand Fenwick and think it's very funny. I noticed that in the book (or was it a sequel?), Grand Fenwick creates an alliance of many tiny countries called the Tiny Twenty. It occured to me that *there*, GF just might spearhead such an organization, maybe even as a joke in response to the NAL spoof film about it. It wouldn't be a military alliance, of course; just a forum for leaders and citizens to meet and discuss the issues unique to microstates-- especially since IB seems to have more microstates than *here*. In the spirit of the idea, there wouldn't have to be exactly 20 members either. I'd imagine a sprting competition called the Tiny Twenty Tourney or something, since tiny countries have such a hard time in normal international competition. Since I'm developing a tiny country and you seem to have two... does it sound like a good idea? Benkarnell 16:44, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

Yes, I remember the "Tiny Twenty," myself. I guess I could see various microstates having a unique membership within the League of Nations (I believe *here*, small states are also put into their own unique forum in the UN). I also have heard of several small states joining together and doing their own version of various big time sports (mostly soccer and racing). I'll look into it, and might write up a proposal... Seth 19:22 19 September 2007

Macedonia's flag

It should incorporate their most notable symbol (besides Alexander the Great...)
Vergina Sun

Seth 08:02, 14 July 2008


If you're interested in any aspect of Luxemburg, feel free to write about it. I still feel like I in some sense grabbed the place while you were also interested in it. Same goes for anything I've written recently about the royals: don't hesitate to comment. Benkarnell 18:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

HR Emperor

I thought you might want to take a gander at Holy Roman Emperor and help work out a specific proposal about the current Emperor. Zahir 20:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Pictures of Paris-sur-Mizouri

Seth, if you have time and a digital camera and would like to take pictures of historical buildings in Jefferson City, I'd love to try to work out if they could be correlated to buildings in Paris-sur-Mizouri. What do you think? BoArthur 22:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I might need to borrow a friends camera, but yeah... Seth 07:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of photos...what do you think of this aerial shot of the Capitol Complex? I've detailed out what the streets correlate to so you can get a feel for what's where *there* compared to *here*. BoArthur 16:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
They look really nice. But I'm sticking to my guns here on this one: Jefferson City's downtown (and the vast majority of the city for that matter) is rather hilly. I'm not gonna fight over every little detail, but yeah, the town is quite hilly... Seth 17:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Paris is hilly, too. Probably not as hilly as Jefferson City, but I can see a sprawling metropolis building in the area, just subverting the hills to its spread. And as to "sticking to your guns", I prefer to think of it as you disabusing me of my misconceptions about the area, since you live there, and I've never set foot in most of Missouri.
From what I could see on Google Maps, there's essentially a valley between the hill that I've put the National Assembly on (WSW of Dunklin Street) and the hill (ridge, really) that I've got the Tower on...the crossroads of Jefferson and High Street. I figured the open area between them would be a big garden flowing down and up the valley. Does that jive with what you know the area to be like? BoArthur 19:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
If you moved the National Assembly south and east just a bit, it would begin cutting into a large ridge/hill, But where it is now is in it's own little valley. The First President's Residence should probably be moved just a tad North-North West, probably being where it's garden is. Otherwise one would see it's basement jutting out from the Southern corner. And the National Library should actually be moved either North-North East a tad (about 50-100 feet) or moved directly south about 100 or so yards so that it's on somewhat flat ground... Everything else looks fine. Seth 07:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Fleshing out the Streets of Paris-sur-Mizouri

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GF: where?

As long as you're in the neighborhood, Dan and I were wondering a day or so ago just where Grand Fenwick is, exactly: the discussion's at Image talk:Alpinepinch1941.PNG. Benkarnell 03:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


what kind of extra infos were you looking for ?--Marc Pasquin 15:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Plot summaries, the actors who have played him, etc. Seth 17:34, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey, can I provide some material?

Because of that damn bug in my account, I cannot use the edit button. Can I do some favor for you? I will send some material, you put it on edit.

More later.


Sure, I don't really mind, though it may take some time for me to really get up and post it. I've been slacking off ;_; . Also, I like what you did with the Gundom page, but I'm gonna go and edit some of the typos and reword a few things. Seth 04:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Making a comeback!

Sorry for the very long absense, my friends! I shall be making an overdue return shortly!


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