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Factbook

  • Government: Democratic republic
  • Official Name: Republic of Turkey
  • President: Tansu Ciller
  • Prime Minister: Dorgan Recep Dogsu
  • Population: 17 Million
  • Capital: Ankara [formerly Gordion]
  • Official language: Turkish
  • Official script: Latin (since 1983)
  • Religions: Sunni Muslim, Christianity, Shi'ite Islam, various denominations of Judaism, Syrian Orthodox Christians, 24% of the population athiest
  • Currency: 1 xenare = 100 kurus = 1000 milim
  • Establishement of the Republic: 10 September 1923

Past historical developments

Owing to the 16th Century [A.D.] victories of Mohammed Zahir-un-din, also known as Babur, against the Safavids, the changes to the Ottoman dynasty and polity were remarkably imperceptable -- until the year 1835 [A.D.], when the reigning Sultan died of an abrupt heart attack. His successor was his son Murad.

Murad, upon taking the throne, did all he could to keep his country solvent. However, this involved tightening control over the Middle East and the Balkans, which sowed the seeds for rebellion. In the 1840s, Sultan Murad recieved emmissaries from the Baburids to the east, proposing a Holy War against the Safavid Persians. However, Murad, like his son and grandson would be, was too busy quelling insurrections in the Ottoman Realm for taking part in a Holy War.

Albania gained independence from Turkey in August 1894, after the Albanians took inspiration from the Hungarians (1869), Bulgarians (January 1893), Dalmatians (1890) and others who rose up against the Ottoman Empire. The Albanians, however, were aided by troops from the Two Sicilies, which goes a long way to explain the cold shoulder the Two Sicilies and Turkey give one another, diplomatically speaking.

Recent historical developments

In the wake of the Great War of 1914-1918, newly-crowned Sultan Ibrahim moved the capital to the more secure location of Gordion, home of the legendary King Midas.

In 1920, Sultan Ibrahim instituted the Language Reform, which purged Turkey’s Osmanlica alphabet of Persian characters. Facing rebellion in the same year, he ordered a forced march of all Kurds and Armenians to the nations of their co-nationals to the east. The Syrian citizens, however, he allowed the option to stay in Turkey.

In 1922, the country became a republic, and Sultan Ibrahim fled with his family to Persia. The first president was Gansu Kemal, who modernised the rather backward country, and introduced Latin, even though it didn't become the legal official script until 1983. Turkey took neutrality in the Second Great War as the elderly Kemal did not want a national disaster occuring due to a war. Military took over for fifteen years in 1950, and the Second Republic was created. The Third Republic was created after a revolution liberated the country in 1966. In the past few years, they have improved their previously troubled human rights record, and also the economy has improved.


Look, anonymous user, we appreciate it that you want to contribute to our project. But you can't just start editing articles - without any introduction, without any discussion. We've asked you for that before, but you don't seem to read the talk pages of the articles you edit. I've reverted your changes to Turkey, and copied your proposal here on the talk page. Please discuss it with us before doing anything in article please. By the way, as it looks now, this proposal is completely unacceptable; it violates far too many pre-established facts. Please, read what's written on the Main Page and How It All Works first! I assume your intentions are honourable, but if you continue editing articles like this, you will be blocked. Best regards, IJzeren Jan 09:23, 28 November 2005 (PST)

MR independence

May I add the MR to the list of nations whose independence from the Ottoman Empire inspired the Albanians? Monastic Republic (1878). Caeruleancentaur 16:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Help with Arabic Script

One thing that never sat well with me was that Turkey's page uses a lot of modern Turkish (like "Türkiye"), which is misleading because *there's* Turkey still writes their alphabet in the Arabic script, albeit a heavily modified one purged of any Muslim Persian influences (which is also strange because A.) Most Iranians either stayed Zoroastrian or apostatized from Islam to it and B.) What did Persia do to piss off Turkey, anyway?). I wanted to write things like "Türkiye" and "Osmanlı Devleti" with Arabic to give the page a veneer of authenticity, but with the vowels all looking the same, for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to do it since I don't know the script at all. Finding "Gordion" was easy; if they have no Persian letters in their alphabet, then using the Arabic word for it works in a pinch. But everything else? I need help.

Also, what's actually way more disturbing to me about Turkey's page is that it came out of the blue from someone who never registered with us, that Jan warned numerous times contradicted a lot of established history, and still got posted onto Turkey's page and passed off as canon. Honestly, I had to study Ottoman history in school because of how much its specter shows up in my studies (international relations with a concentration in E. Europe with some North Africa thrown in, modern Greek), so I know a bit. This page takes the worst of real life history and IB and throws it all in a blender. I'd like to propose a complete rewrite and I'd like to stake a claim as the caretaker of Turkey, Armenia, and Cyprus. The former two have never had any caretakers to speak of, and Padraic is retired, so the best I can do is not step on anyone's toes and keep its history and politics in line with English history. I've been meaning to ask this request since about October, but reading Jan's message to the anonymous creator that says "by the way, as it looks now, this proposal is completely unacceptable; it violates far too many pre-established facts," was the last straw. There's no one to really grant me this, I s'pose: the Yahoo group is long dead, and no one on the Facebook group really has the authorization, but come on, just because the chain of command is long gone means we have to put up with bad history? Misterxeight 10:36, 23 March 2017 (PDT)

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