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On the website list the spelling of the IB name(s) of 25. B. P. Jonsson are heavily out of date.

Done. [PB]

BTW shouldn't Jan Havliš deserve to have his name spelled correctly? š is š.

thanx for taking care; among nations not used to diactitics, I've already said bye-bye to my "hachek". Speaking about that, there should be also: nashian > nassian; Nashina > Nassland, + conlang Bohemian (pémiš). and thanx in advance to PB to correct it ;) Jan II.
Well I'm rather particular about diacritics, if only because Swedish becomes utterly unreadable without them. BTW Jonsson and Jönsson are two different names (although both derive from forms of Iohannes). Jönsson is by far the most common, and one reason I don't want to have jonsson in my email address is that when I hade some Swedes blandly assumed I was Jönsson.
Well, there's correct and there's correct! I'm always willing to ammend, however. [PB]


New Changes

I like the new changes. :) BoArthur

Grr, arg

Someone's spellt my name incorrectly. It's Llywelyn Jones. (Don't worry too much though, they wouldn't be the first.) --Sikulu 10 Jan 2006, 15:14 (GMT)

Blimey, I don't know whó could have spelled LLywellyn wrong! Elemtilas 12:36, 10 January 2006 (PST)
If we're being picky about names, can I have Deiniol rather than Dan? I know that's what people know me as, but what with there being another Dan here, some disambiguation might be a good thing! Deiniol 07:43, 11 January 2006 (PST)
Of course, if you want my full name, its even longer. :) -- Sikulu 12:46, 12 January 2006 (GMT)

Looking for assignment

Is there any part/country of IB that needs managing, or does anyone need some help with any part, please let me know. -- Sikulu 14:05, 11 January 2006 (GMT)

There are all sorts of countries that have no one "in charge" of them, so to speak. Scotland and Tejas come immediately to mind. Other than Prussia, most of the Holy Roman Empire is largely undefined. I don't think anyone has done anything with the Rom (aka the Gypsies). Plus the majority of NAL provinces are up for grabs. Although it intersects with a lot of QSS, methinks Communism as a movement and a history has a lot of potential. Popular music has only been slightly developed, and professional sports even less so. Zahir 07:03, 11 January 2006 (PST)
Ok then; I'll take the NAL provinces that have nobody to manage them (as the information is scetchy in most, at best). -- Sikulu 15:41, 11 January 2006 (GMT)
Oh, and Communism, while I'm at it. -- Sikulu 15:42, 11 January 2006 (GMT)
Cool! I would recommend though that you take one province to start, then more later. For one thing, other folks might want to do some of the provinces later! I'm pretty good at flags, so if you have any requests, please let me know! Heh heh. Look forward to your proposals! Zahir 08:17, 11 January 2006 (PST)

Note: Scotland is a special case, being one of the older parts of IB and any caretaker would have to work closely with England and Kemr. Probably not very interesting, as its history and culture are not too different from *here*. The HRE is already a group project -- there are many regions that are free.

As you say, several NAL provinces are open. We don't know much about nos. 26 through 30 at all, except that Ouisconsin is largely Brithenig speaking. Sikulu's interest in the Line of 1763 might lead him towards one of those provinces, or Kentuckey (Scottish and English settlers, mostly) or Tenisi (Kemrese settlers). Taking one province would be preferable -- the temptation of taking too many is that none of them get much attention. Or worse, they all get bad attention.

Sports are pretty well known. Rubgy and football are surely the most popular. Rounders is known and popular, though we never decided if it is America's Sport or not. Other popular sports include lacrosse, ice hockey, hibercrosse, equestrian sports, auto racing, motorbike racing and basketball. Might be nice if Dr. Naismith's original rules were used for IB's variety of basketball (i.e., being able to bat the ball around). We don't know much about Native sports apart from lacrosse and ullamaliztli.

We don't know anything about professional players, sportscasters or names of municipal stadiums. We don't know about any differences in rules between *here* and *there*.

Popular music is also pretty well worked out. We know that the Euro-Afro fusion took place, such that America's contribution to art music include jass, swing and blues. Rock-n-roll, if it even exists in IB, is not so popular as *here*. *There*, modern musical trends are towards "fusional" music, like zidico + Celtic or whathaveyou. We know that what is called "folk music" *here* is very popular, and is often part of the fusional process. The traditional town bands are still to be found in many places in America, mostly in the "old provinces" of the seaboard, though.

We don't know much about bands or star performers, though. We have very little music from *there*, apart from a collection of folk music and the NAL's national song. If you have any compositional talent (say, the ability to create computer driven music), you might take on the persona of a fusion band.

Elemtilas 08:39, 11 January 2006 (PST)

Rock-n-roll certainly exists in IB, as witnessed by the vast and world-wide popularity of NoMoreEagleZ. Zahir 08:44, 11 January 2006 (PST)
In fact, most countries in the world are still "free", although it won't be easy to find a place where are won't be restricted to a higher or lesser degree by QSS. Even in the Western world: as far as I can tell, nobody really "owns" Tejas, Mejico, Cuba in North America, or Scotland, Austria, Estonia, Ukraine, and many other places all over the globe.
The NAL-SLC as a whole is not owned by anybody; it is worked on by several people who are interested in it. But it is always possible to adopt a province. Exactly the same goes for the Holy Roman Empire in Europe: as a whole it is common property, but there's nothing against claiming one of its member states (frankly, I'm surprised that nobody hasn't done that yet). Russia is a similar case, too: while I may be in charge of Russia as a whole, anybody is free to work out the details for one of the republics.
I concur with Padraic that it's better to pick one place and develop it in-depth than to fly over the surface of many places. It has not only the disadvantage that places don't get the attention they deserve, but also that you make it harder for other, future members, because they will be restricted by whatever you did. And believe me: one can work on one country, even a small one, for years, and still continuously discover new things. And the deeper you get into it, the livelier it becomes!
And indeed, instead of working on a country or a province, you can also adopt a subject ("roll 'n roll" or whatever), a person, a political party, or whatever. It's really up to you. We don't work with assignments here. In general I'd say: don't pick a place because it is free; only because you have a lively interest in it. All I can advise you is this: just follow your heart, and your interests, and you'll finally find your place yourself.
IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 13:24, 11 January 2006 (PST)
Ok, then. I'll start with Tenisi, then move to Kentucky. Communism also needs to be checked. Post on my talk page or on the page's discussion page and I'll institute the changes promptly. (Or as soon as possible, as I've got exams in the next two weeks, and won't be available much to make the changes.) -- Sikulu 09:33, 12 January 2006 (GMT)
Check out Tenisi and Kentucky. Their history etc need to by IBised. -- Sikulu 12:41, 13 January 2006 (GMT)
What's the word on the French and Indian wars (all four on them) in IB? -- Sikulu 14:49, 13 January 2006 (GMT)

Map update

When was the last time that map (the one with the member numbers, showing who was managing where) was updated anyway? --Sikulu 06:56, 19 January 2006 (PST)

The map actually is just to show where we all roughly live. It's been a while since I updated it. BoArthur 08:41, 19 January 2006 (PST)
When you do update it, I think that Wesley Parish lives in Christchurch rather than Wellington. One of these years I should organise a meeting of IB-NZ :) - AndrewSmith 15:36, 20 January 2006 (PST).

Also, I moved from NYC to Detroit :-) Steg. Boroparkpyro 09:11, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

More recent members

Is it true that nobody new came to Ill Bethisad after January of 2009? I feel like that can't be right, though I certainly was not active during most of that time. Benkarnell 12:52, 12 December 2012 (PST)

2 Xenias

I just noticed that Xenia is on here twice. In the past, there were errors where someone got skipped, so people were inserted as #3a and #65a so as not to disrupt anyone's number. After all, these engraved Membership plaques don't grow on trees! So I shall delete #78, and this note is to explain the gap. (Edit) Marcus Miles is also the same person as Habarakhe Theophilus. I hope there aren't any other errors, but I'll keep looking. Benkarnell 11:03, 22 April 2020 (PDT) (Proud #66)

you could always put #78 as "He Who Shall Not Be Named"--Marc pasquin 00:28, 23 April 2020 (PDT)


The date isn't a typo. I've just been pruning and weeding out old email folders and came across his Date of Admittance. Elemtilas 13:59, 9 November 2020 (PST)

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