Talk:Junior Foresters

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I really like this, Marc. It's very IB.

I only went through to correct spelling errors (sooner or later, a redirect to "Junior Foresters" is going to have to be made!) and minor grammatical issues.

On that note, the major change I made was to the title of Badenev's book -- I replaced the verb with the noun forestry. If you really meant the verb there, then by all means change that back!

I also noted under similar organisations the Boy Scouts. I don't know if they are an "associate organisation" or not, but they do share some ecotopic ideals in common.

Elemtilas 19:30, 20 March 2007 (PDT)

You know, I really do like this. It's the sort of thing I'd be interested in seeing a lot more development of.
Some points on this;
  • Is Scouts still gender seperated in England? I'd have preferred it if this is instead of Scouting instead of aswell as it, myself. For a start Pavel Badenev more or less *is* the name of Baden Powell and I had a cool idea for BP. (Although doppelgänger).
I see!
  • If indeed Scouts and JF exist side-by side, Could I presume that the JF are principally operating in countries with a lot of forest (i.e. not W. Europe), or is that wrong?
I don't see why forests per se are a requirement. The JF could operate in wooded but not heavily forested areas or even in jungles. I think what's important about the JF -- and Marc brings this out very well -- is that it is an environmentally oriented programme. It just happens to have emerged and developped in a heavily wooded country!
  • Would tribes in the NAL be on province level rather than national?
Boy Scout councils *here* are regional in nature, though there is also a national structure. I don't see any reason why the JF structure would be any different in the NAL than it is in other countries, with the Tribe as a national level.
I rather intended the JF to be the scouts counterpart on IB. Instead, england could have the Boys Brigade which *here* actualy predate the boy scout (It was one of BP's inspiration):
In that case, perhaps the Boy Brigade can evolve into an organisation that melds the two. The reference to "Boy Scouts" is easily altered or removed entirely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_brigade
as for the other questions:
forresters could probably be adapted to other countries: the junior swamp dwellers, the junior desert caravaneers, etc... Its the respect for nature that the basis of their ideology, not the type of surrounding.
Indeed, though we could only hope for less hokey names! Perhaps a name like Junior Outdoorsmen would cover all permutations and not intimate any kind of cultural slur?
regarding the tribe, maybe condominium have more then one. Either that or the same tribe apply to all colonies/provinces and there's just a lot of clans in it. --Marc Pasquin 15:10, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
I would suggest that a condominium territory have only one Tribe. Just because a country is divided between the authorities of two foreign powers doesn't mean every aspect of the people's lives should be so divided or have a dual structure!
Marc, I'm sure you've thought up some sketches of uniforms and patches and the like? (Boy Scouts *here* love to trade activity and council patches -- I'm sure JFs *there* will be equally enamoured of the hobby!
Elemtilas 18:32, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

Do you think maybe the Ecotopism Template belongs on this page? Or not? Should it be included in the Template, under "organizations" maybe? Zahir 14:38, 11 July 2007 (PDT)

  1. Yes.
  2. Yes.

Thanks for asking! BoArthur 15:31, 11 July 2007 (PDT)

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