Talk:Ill Peleirin

Can we get the translation of Exterminate and other Pithy 'Whoisms' to post here about this? BoArthur

What differences would exist between Ill Peleirin and Doctor Who? BoArthur 22:45, 1 February 2006 (PST)

Questions; who are Tom Garuey, Elizabeth Rhinalt and Gwillam Horsht playing, would the credits be in Cambrian, did the BBC ever stop IP, and if so are they reintroducing it? --Quentin 09:10, 9 June 2006 (PDT)

Tom Garvey is Ill Pelerein, and the other two are his travelling companions. Originally, yes, they would be in Cambrian. I don't know either way if the series was stopped, and I think *there* it wouldn't have been, as Star Trek was only recently introduced to compete with them. BoArthur 09:48, 9 June 2006 (PDT)

Differences

Regarding the differences, *here* Doctor was originaly supposed to be an educational show with the time traveling being an excuse to visit famous historical events and figures. Obviously, the dalek introduction made it more a space-faring thing but what if *there* it stayed strictly about time travel ?

The Stranger could be from "The End Of Time", an era where he had grown tired of a still and asepticised world and craving the danger of yesteryears. He would have then stolen the TEDDRING to allow him to visit interesting moments in history.

The Ddalec in turn could be either the custodiants of the timeline, trying to prevent the Stanger's interference or they could be from another timeline and bent on destroying this one (which they consider "chaotic"). If the later, this also give us a chance of mixing in some elements from "Sliders".--Marc Pasquin 11:08, 16 June 2006 (PDT)

I think you've struck a great idea, M. Pasquin, I do indeed. True Ill Bethisad Fashion, no less. I fully support this idea, and invite you to develop it if you feel so inclined, and perchance I shall, as well. BoArthur 11:41, 16 June 2006 (PDT)

Will try.--Marc Pasquin 12:19, 16 June 2006 (PDT)

I agree. This is a very cool idea. Zahir 12:36, 16 June 2006 (PDT)

Marc's Proposal

Most of the elements of my proposals are based on anecdotes I read about Doctor Who but with a different twist:

• the Tardis was originaly suposed to change shape every episode to blend in. The idea was scrapped in favour of re-using the Phone Box.

• A few of the early episodes that took place in our past in foreign countries were said to show characters displaying unflatering stereotypical behaviours (although in all fairness, Doctor Who is not the only show guilty of that). Considering the Cambrian attitude toward the English, I though the Saxons would fit in.

• The Daleks were aparently inspired by the Nazi according to their creator.

• The Soul extractor is, of course, a way to explain the many actors without just plagiarising Doctor Who's "regeneration". The reason I gave for creating it in the first place is actualy the reason why "Sliders" producers had a different actor playing an alternate version of the main character.

Really? I don't remember that on Sliders but then, I never watched it religiously. Interesting how you've moved IB's version of the Daleks more in the direction of the Borg with a dash of Kromaag. I'm wondering, though, if Ill Peleirin would focus so more on "historical" stories than did/does Dr. Who? Especially over (pardon the pun) time? For example, are there others aware of Alternate Times and might they more-or-less recruit The Stranger as their de facto agent? For that matter, might there be Entities a la Star Treks Q or Babylon 5s Lorien to come across? Just a thought. If the show lasts so long as to start changing lead actors several times, multiple types of stories might have to be developed to keep the show fresh.

I find myself also intrigued by the "Time Hitchers" and what sort of people they might be--as well as how they might change over time. In the early Dr. Who many of his companions were very much of the damsel-in-distress mold. One of them even managed to destroy some monsters because her screams were the exact sound necessary to kill them! Later, the show had brilliant whiz kids, exiled alien nobility, spunky career girls, professional soldiers, folks from pre-industrial eras, and even a couple of robots! Zahir 21:05, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

I think of Sarah Jane Smith as the Companion who marks the changeover from thick-and-screams to armed-and-spunky. That may be subjective. When this change takes place is a reflection of changing gender roles in society - which is a different discussion.

Note that Ddalec is a plural, the singular is Dalec, without the initial mutation.

I'm holding out to see adventure synopses :) - AndrewSmith 02:07, 18 June 2006 (PDT)

Ah, Sarah Jane...! *sigh* But I'll admit my fave companions were Leela, the second Romana and of course ACE! My request is for a section about The Stranger's companions, noting the most memorable as well as some plot points (how they joined and left the story, etc.). I think the section about Adversaries could also be expanded.

Re-reading the article, I have two quibbles:

* It stated that episodes for syndication ran out fairly soon. Well, given the show was in production of DECADES methinks that needs some explanation.

* I wish we got some sense of The Stranger's personality, other than scientific brilliance (he invented a time machine) and restlessness. Zahir 08:30, 18 June 2006 (PDT)

Regarding the Sliders reference, that happened in the first episode of the last ever season.

Regarding the number of episodes, if there is the same number of episodes as *here* (roughly 700) and showed them daily (as they do *here* in australia on the ABC), they would run out after less then 3 years. Even assuming they showed them one per week, there is the possibility that the oversea showing were only a season or 2 behind so the cancelation in Cambria would have given the oversea market about a year to start up there own version.

Finaly regarding story ideas, What zahir said sound good. I can't realy help there since it was never shown in french back home so I only saw the episode later on. One thing for me that would be interesting though would to have episodes that focus on some important events in IB history. --Marc Pasquin 17:09, 18 June 2006 (PDT)

Shouldn't this be up for de-propping? Zahir 10:57, 9 November 2006 (PST)

I would agree - AndrewSmith 16:23, 10 November 2006 (PST)

I third the motion! BoArthur 17:01, 10 November 2006 (PST)

Some questions first though; are Telefisiwn Comroig part of the BBC, and do the BBC have ad-breaks *there*?

I hope not. SBS just decided to do that and its bloody annoying. --Marc Pasquin 06:53, 11 November 2006 (PST)

I think my original idea is that Telefisiwn Comroig is the equivalent of S4C Sianel 4 Cymru/Channel 4 Wales. Its policy is to commission and televise original Comroig-language television, although it plays a percentage of Saeson-produced programmes from England and Scotland. Looking at Wikipedia S4C carries ad-breaks so I guess TC does the same to be self-supporting. Sorry, guys! -- AndrewSmith 00:30, 12 November 2006 (PST)

In the first line it says BBC! Since when have the S4C been BBC? --Quentin 06:54, 12 November 2006 (PST)

Probably because the distinction hasn't been picked up by most of us. In which case the reference to Telefisiwn Comroig should be corrected. - AndrewSmith 01:08, 13 November 2006 (PST)