Talk:Free Lithuania

Question: would Free Lithuania still recognise the prewar Lithuanian king, or one of his family, as its head of state? Or is it a republic? --IJzeren Jan 19:22, 19 November 2005 (PST)

And is Lithuania now ruled by the same family as in the interwar or not? Abdul-aziz 02:01, 20 November 2005 (PST)

Anonymous Additions

Abdul-Aziz, I'm wondering if it was you that made the addition to this page? Or was it someone else? Would you care to review them and revert them if you feel that they are internally QSS ? Thank you. BoArthur 17:27, 26 November 2005 (PST)

No, they are not mine. I noticed them before on myself, but thanks for notifying me. Right now I don't have much time, so later I will think more about this on werether I will include something from this and such; it won't stay exactly as written, but maybe will be normal after a few edits, I'll see. Abdul-aziz 01:57, 27 November 2005 (PST)

Foreign relations

Does the RTC acknowledge Free Lithuania's existence? What about the rest of the world-- do most countries recognize Free Lithuania, or not? Does it participate in the League of Nations? Benkarnell 10:51, 3 January 2008 (PST)

In 1951 Lithuania passed an act that established the current borders of the country, that way renouncing any possible claims to other territories that were part of Lithuania in the interwar period. This was de facto a recognition of Free Lithuania and I believe Veneda recognised this decition by Lithuania (although Jan can correct me). In Lithuania this country is reffered as "Voldemaravas and Smetoniškis" most frequently however and the name "Free Lithuania" or just "Lithuania" is not used. There are no diplomatic ties established between the countries, Free Lithuania does not recognise Lithuania or the RTC. The situation is kind of similar to situation between People's Republic of China and Taiwan in the real world except that Lithuania does not claim Free Lithuania. Regarding most countries, the caretakers of respective countries would know better. Free Lithuania probably would not want to establish formal diplomatic relations without being recognised as the sole government of Lithuania but it may keep relations in the same way Taiwan does. Free Lithuania is also too small country for foreign countries to establish embassies in and too poor to have embassies in many foreign states. The representatives of Free Lithuania in foreign countries would be usually local Lithuanians who would be supportive of the cause of Free Lithuania but would not move there themselves for various reasons. Abdul-aziz 18:11, 3 January 2008 (PST)

Regarding the borders, without considering it part of the country proper, it could still consider free lithuania to be a rebelious colony. Also, requiring to be recognised as sole government of lithuania would exclude any country that has official dealing with the RTC so indeed few countries would recognise Free Lithuania. Maybe a better comparison then taiwan would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transdnistria --Marc Pasquin 21:22, 3 January 2008 (PST)

Lithuania did not want to claim any lost pre-war territories (and it had lost quite many - to Belarus, Skuodia, Chinese East Africa, Ethiopia, Maasai and Free Lithuania) for various reasons, such as practical impossibility to get many of them back, wish to establish good relations with these countries and the largely anti-nationalist composition of early post-war Seimas which wanted to break from the nationalist rule of the interwar period. Lithuania lost the war and it was only saved from Snorism because such was a decition in Treaty of Visby. On the other hand, in case Free Lithuania would seek reunification Lithuania would probably agree.

Situations of Transnistria and Taiwan are more or less similar by the way, with the exception that only Moldova claims Transnistria and Transnistria does not claim Moldova while China and Taiwan claims each other. Taiwan has a wider recognition for historical and economical reasons (Taiwan is larger, richer (is able to give aid to poorer nations), and there is the history of Cold War). Anyways, some countries that do not recognise Taiwan (as this would require dropping recognition of PRC which is a larger and more important country) still keeps some form of unofficial relations (including USA). With Free Lithuania this is easier as the more important of the two countries (RTC) has no problems with foreign states having such unofficial relations to Free Lithuania. Lithuania may obstruct some particular things such as playing Lithuanian national anthem for Free Lithuania during sport events for example however. So only a few countries would recognise Free Lithuania due to its requirement to recognise it as the sole government of Lithuania but Free Lithuania has representatives (local Lithuanians) in more countries. Abdul-aziz 14:24, 5 January 2008 (PST)

That sounds about right. Perhaps when they compete they have to call themselves "Voldemaravas-Smetoniškis", or "Volde-Smet for short, just as Taiwan has to be "Chinese Taipei". Benkarnell 14:52, 5 January 2008 (PST)