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See, I was thinking that Catalan *there* would be worse off than *here* because Aragonese was fighting so hard for its place in the sun against Castilian. BoArthur 13:24, 2 September 2015 (PDT)

Now, now. I wasn't saying to revert things. I think we're onto something here. I just want to make sure we're not missing something. Hence me reaching out to Padraic and Jan van Steenbergen, and Andrew, since they played in Europe more than I did in those bygone days. BoArthur 16:29, 2 September 2015 (PDT)
Just curious: how does IB Catalan differ from Catalan *here*? IJzeren Jan 08:17, 18 September 2015 (PDT)
My idea was to have it more closely resemble Narbonosc (Catalan and Occitan *here* are pretty close after all). If you want, I can put a proposal tag for it. 10:24, 18 September 2015 (CDT)

Articles in Catalan (and possibly Narbonosc)

If you're looking on doing something different, Juan, I read an alternate history article once where someone proposed that a unique phenomenon in eastern Catalan be used to form standard Catalan, and perhaps standard Occitan as well (which obviously "there" is Narbonosc). The vast, vast majority of Romance language derive their articles from the Latin "ille," but not all. Some Romance languages derive their articles from the Latin "ipsum." The most prominent example in our world is Sardinian, and in some dialects of Catalan. This forum might explain it better than I have:

Just some food for thought, this isn't any sort of order or mandate. I just thought it was kind of cool and I figured that you might be looking for ways to make Catalan unique. Misterxeight 19:10, 29 September 2015 (PDT)

Hmm. I like this suggestion a lot, actually. I'll have to give you credit for it. As for Narbonosc, 'fraid its grammar is said and done, and I don't really feel like testing the limits of QSS... However, nò-one ever said I couldn't condialect... Perhaps Provençal and Gascon dialects (the ones with the salat article *here*) have it? And perhaps the articles lenited to their present form in Narbonosc from salat forms in Medieval Occitan? Most intriguing indeed... Juan Martin Velez Linares 23:17, 29 September 2015 (CDT)
Another thing I should note is that the theory postulated a Protestant Catalonia. *There* Gaulhe still has large numbers of Protestants, perhaps even Cathar sects. Maybe the Catalans are similarly religiously heterogeneous? Juan Martin Velez Linares 23:20, 29 September 2015 (CDT)
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