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Should the flag be as is on the page or should the bulgarian have their own SNORist symbol ?--Marc Pasquin 00:58, 15 September 2007 (PDT)

i would suggest their own SNOR symbol - lion, which is bulgarian national symbol AFAIK. Jan II. 01:25, 15 September 2007 (PDT)
That's a really good point. This flag was created eary, IIRC, when we still provisorically used the SNOR eagly for all satellite states. I think we know by now that no other country would adopt it literally. The same way that Soviet satellites, instead of using the hammer and the sickle, used their own communist COAs. So I think it would be better for Bulgaria to have its own. A lion, perhaps? Just my opinion, 'cause it's ultimately all up to Ferko! —IJzeren Jan Uszkie┼étu? 01:27, 15 September 2007 (PDT)
Agreed. Lion is for Bulgaria. It is as Jan I. said. :) Dalmatinac 22:26, 17 September 2007 (PDT)

Hows this ? --Marc Pasquin 22:10, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

good lion, but it looks anaesthetically to me, unsymmetrical... i would put the lion into the center, on the borders of the green and white. my two groats. Jan II. 23:16, 20 September 2007 (PDT)
The reason I did it this way was due to the historical flag being defaced that way:

--Marc Pasquin 23:30, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

Cool snorist COA!--Pedromoderno 07:36, 21 September 2007 (PDT)
In general I like it, although the lion seems just a tad "busy" but that is a minor complaint. It both conveys the sense of Bulgaria, based on historical iconography, and the sense of a SNOR-ist "infection" as it were. Zahir 08:42, 21 September 2007 (PDT)

For me that's perfectly ok, Marc. I rather prefer this lion SNOR-ist flag than the previous eagle one. In fact, as I wrote some months ago, it's a COOL COA.--Pedromoderno 23:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Macedonian Liberation Army?

I've noticed for a while now that the territory of Macedonia is under Bulgarian control (as it was several time throughout *our* history). But I have a question: How strong is their control there? No doubt there is quite possibly a Macedonian liberation group (possibly funded by Serbia or Greece, or some other group), which had me thinking that there might also be a "Freedom Fighter Army," which uses terrorist/guerrilla tactics against the "oppressive Bulgars" (Not that hard to imagine, what with it being a nationalist, one-party state). So, what are your all's ideas on the subject? Seth 29 May 2008

With the landscape so different, is it totally certain that Macedonians as we know them even exist? Benkarnell 19:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I was under the assumption that the POD (for the most part) was a stronger Rome. To the best of my knowledge, Macedonians were around before Rome and during Rome. Howver, they could be a displaced people like the Roma (gypsie) or Jews (like they were pre-Israel *here*). Perhaps they rebelled under Roman rule, and we know of the "Macedonian Diaspora" along with the Jewish Diaspora. Perhaps under the Danubian Confederation, they were offered a "homeland," as the Jews *here* were under British Palestine, but got gobbled up by the Bulgars when dissolution hit, and are considered Bulgars that speak a different language (like the "Mountain Turks" *here*, which are just Kurds). However, I do see them *there* wanting to establish their own homeland, but consider themselves more Greek than Slav/Bulgar, perhaps stronger influence of Greek (and possibly other languages from their possible diaspora) on their language, which definately sounds IB to me :P Seth 30 May 2008

The Macedonians probably wouldn't go for a Macedon-Greek union, though I could see them becoming a protectorate or in a personal union (Perhaps the new Greek emperor and the heir-apperant to the Macedonian throne *de jure* get married. Not a political union, but a strong relationship between the two. But, then again, who knows. IB is a unique world :) Seth 00:38 15 July 2008

I can not say as to what IB Greece's official stance on this issue is, though the right wing of the Imperialist if open to a liberated Makedonia. Misterxeight 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, again... the equivalent of the here-Macedonians *there* consider themselves 100% Bulgarian, so that can't be an issue. In the Danubian times, the only thing that changed in the area was that it was transferred from Serbia to Bulgaria (though I don't know if that was during the DC or CSDS times...) Dalmatinac 21:11, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

There's also a non-Slavic Macedonian people. In fact, there might be another as well... can't remember. Benkarnell 00:46, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Commented on that page, please see there. Dalmatinac 06:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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