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I'm afraid of sounding presumptuous or rude, and I really don't want to step on any toes. It's taken me a bit to figure how to word this, and here it goes: I think I've noticed an oversight on the Wiki. A minor one. As a Southern American, a Georgian, I was immediately drawn to Jacobia, and while perusing the list of counties, I was happy to see that some of the names which wouldn't be possible over *there* (Washington, for example), were changed. However, and these are merely the thoughts of an interested bystander, I feel it equally unlikely to hold onto the names Calhoun or Clay or Effingham or Pulaski as it would be to have a Washington County. Further, quite a number of the counties listed on the Jacoibian Wiki-page refer to land which, if it refers to the same land by the same name *here*, would be in Carolina, the Cherokee Nation, or in Florida. I did a little research (I didn't want to be that jerk who blew in here, declared "You're wrong!" and then couldn't support himself) into the history of the NAL, and I've tried to find a similar figure in the world of IB to take the place of figures who wouldn't necessarily be as prominent (or who wouldn't exist at all) in Ill Bethisad. Often, of course, I didn't know enough about how NAL politics operated to select an appropriate candidate - you'll notice that the first few counties I list don't really seem as if I was trying to hard - It's not really until the C's that things get going! Anyway, I'm uploading my Concise Explanation of Georgian Nomenclature with Notes on Correcting for IB as a Word Document in the Files Section, as well as a map I altered from a free one on Wikipedia, which I futzed with to reflect the borders of Jacobia as based on the map shown in the page on the History of the NAL. I got a lot of information on the Jacobia-Florida border from the article on the Florida War, but I'm still not really sure how much what I've worked on follows QSS. If you like my map, though, and you like my recommendations for Jacobian counties, I'll produce one with the county names corrected. I'd like to give this to y'all as a gift thanking y'all for making the world just that much more interesting!

Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conculture/files/Jacobia_(N.A.L._province)_map.png

Concise Explanation of Georgian Nomenclature


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Appling – probably not, named for a hero of 1812.

Atkinson – maybe – named for a governor of Georgia – is there an anologous Lord Governor from Jacobia’s past?

Bacon – Ah, maybe. Named for senator.

Baker – probably not. Named for a revolutionary war hero.

Baldwin – Rock it! *Here* named for one of the guys who signed the Constitution. *There* named for Abram Baldwin, who signed the Solemn League and Covenant.

Banks County – named for a local physician.

Barrow – Sure. Named for the Chancellor of the University of Gergia. U of Jacobia?

Bartow – Within the borders of the Cherokee Nation.

Ben Hill – Maybe. Named for a senator.

Berrien – Eh, yeah, maybe. Named for a senator and attorney general. What’s the equivalent position in the NAL? (Attorney General)

Bibb County – Probably not. Named for the first governor of Alabama.

Bleckley – … Maybe? Named for a Georgia Supreme Court justice.

Brantley – Named for a senator.

Brooks – Probably not. Named for a congressman from South Carolina. How about Graham, a senator from Carolina over *there*?

Bryan – Sure. Named for a colonial settler. It also in the IB course of events, could be named after the GM *there*, Mr. Jeremiah Jennings Bryan.

Bulloch – Named for a Revolutionary war hero.

Burke – Probably not. Named after Edmund Burke, who, aside from being a political philosopher, and this is the part I think doesn’t really entirely work – he was also a member of parliament who supported American independence. I, as an outsider, am recommending the name “St George” – that was the county’s original name.

Butts – Yeah. Named for a Creek War hero. Indian wars would have been fought *there* just the same as *here*, although certainly without the same aggression.

Calhoun – Uh, no, probably not. Named of course after John Calhoun – that crazy guy who threatened on South Carolina’s behalf to secede from the Union over tax issues. How about name in Manning, a guy who was in charge of South Carolina *there* and whose service overlaps Calhoun’s *here*.

Camden – Part of *there*’s Florida.

Candler – named after the Governor of Georgia 1898 – 1902. Maybe name it after Ion Slaton?

Carroll – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Catoosa – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Charlton – Part of the Florida.

Chatham – Kind of the same story as Burke county. Again, as an outsider, I’m recommending St Philip.

Chattahoochee – Sure. Named after the river.

Chattooga – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Cherokee – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Clarke – Uh, this guy’s on the fence. Elijah Clarke *was* a revolutionary war hero, but at the same time he was a kook and something of a micronationalist who tried to organize the area around my house as “The Republic of Trans-Oconee” as a ploy to steal Indian lands. Jerk or no jerk, I kinda like a guy like that.

Clay – Named for the Great Compromiser Henry Clay. I’d change it.

Clayton – Sure. Named for a local jurist.

Clinch – Yeah. Duncan clinch might have been a big War of 1812 guy, but he was a hero from the Seminole War. So, yeah.

Cobb – Part of the Cherokee Nation.<s>

Coffee – I’d change it. Named for another War of 1812 guy.

Colquitt – A keeper. Named for a preacher.

Columbia – Yikes! Is there a Christopher Columbus *there*?

Cook – Uh, probably not. Named after the Confederate Secretary of State.

Coweta – Yeah, cool. Named after a tribe of the Creek Nation.

Crawford – Uh, maybe? Named for a senator, ambassador to France, and Secretary of State?

Crisp – Named for a Senator.

<s>Dade – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Dawson – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Decatur – Uh. Okay. Named after a war of 1812 guy, BUT, Decatur’s pretty wrapped up in Georgian *and* Jacobian history. There might need to be an historical Decatur *there*.

DeKalb – Named after the “inspector general” (whatever that means) of the colonial army.

Dodge – Sure. Named after a businessman and temperance leader.

Dooly – Named for a hero of the American Revolution.

Dougherty – Yes. Named for an Athens judge.

Douglas – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Early – Uh… Perhaps? Named for the tenth governor of the state.

Echols – Another big perhaps. Named for a hero of the Mexican-American War. I don’t really understand enough about Tejas.

Effingham – Uh, actually same thing as with Burke and Chatham. This one used to be called St Matthew.

Elbert – A governor of Georgia in 1785.

Emanuel – A governor of Georgia in 1801.

Evans – A Civil War hero.

Fannin – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Fayette – That French hero of the Revolution. Actually, if there’s a DeKalb county, there might actually also be a Fayette. They were pals.

Floyd – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Forsyth – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Franklin – Is there a Benjy Franklin over *there*? (Yes, there was)

Fulton – Yes. Named after the Chief Engineer of the state of Georgia in 1853.

Gilmer – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Glascock – Sure. Named after a Seminole War hero.

Glynn – Part of Florida.

Gordon – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Grady – Sure. Named after the managing editor of the newspaper The Atlanta Constitution. The journalism school at UGA is named after him.

Greene – Named after a revolutionary war.

Gwinnett – Named after our guy who signed the Declaration of Independence. It’s been changed to “Gwinneth” *there*. Is this related to the Kemrese province “Gwenedd”? Maybe there was a large Jewish population there at the time of its founding? I was also thinking maybe the county seat could be “New Aberddui” – My parents live in Gwinnett, in Lawrenceville, which is the Gwinnetian county seat *here*. But *here* Snellville, just South of Lawrenceville *here* (they really rather bleed into one another), is really the more prestigious town. And Snellville used to be called New London. Well, New Castreleon was already being used, so I thought New Aberddui might be nice. Your call, though, of course.

Habersham – the Postmaster General in the Cabinet of George Washington.

Hall – Another guy who signed the Declaration of Independence. He was Georgia governor in 1783. John Hall Signed the Solemn League and Covenant.

Hancock – Named after a congressman.

Harralson – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Harris – Yes! Named for a Savannah attorney.

Hart – A folklore heroine who shot and then hanged the survivors of a group of redcoats. Uh.

Henry – Named for Patrick Henry, the “Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!” guy. As there wasn’t a revolution, he probably wouldn’t be remembered there as strongly, yeah?

Houston – Named after the governor of Georgia in 1778. I’m guessing this is Honstadt County in Jacobia? I think Honstadt’s a good choice. It gets the Zekie F Seal of Approval.

Irwin – Governor in 1796. Maybe “Whittington,” didn’t Whittington manumit his slaves sometime around here?

Jackson – Probably not. Named after a hero of the Revolutionary War.

Jasper – Same as the above. Named after a hero of the Revolutionary War.

Jeff Davis – No! Good God, no. Named after the president of the Confederacy! I’m guessing this is Hazzard County in Jacobia?

Jefferson – Is there a Tom Jefferson *there*? Maybe call it Van Lustbader? (Yeah, Tomos Jefferson was part of the NAL history)

Jenkins – A Georgia governor who wrote favorably of the Compromise of 1850. Probably not.

Johnson – Uh, probably not. Named after Douglas’s running mate in 1860 election. In keeping with the philosophy that things *there* should more or less reflect the general movements of time *here*, I tried to look up Illinoise politicians, to reflect the Douglas-side of that election, and ran across the name Zijlstra, which is bad-ass. Just a suggestion.

Jones – A congressman at the Constitutional Convention. Probably not.

Lamar – US Supreme Court justice. Maybe?

Lanier – Sure! Named after Sidney Lanier.

Laurens – Ah, no, probably not. Named after Washington’s aide.

Lee – No. BUT, apparently it was named after a Revolutionary War hero, not Robert E. Lee. However, the two men were related. (Great-great-grandfather to great-great-grandson, I believe the relationship is.) Perhaps this county is named after the Parliamentary President who died in the Crisis of 1875, Mr Rhoberth E Lee?

Liberty – Self-explanatory. The original parishes which were later consolidated to make the county were St Andrew, St James, and St John. Why not St Andrew in honor of Mr Smith?

Lincoln – Actually, named after a Revolutionary War hero, and not surprisingly, we are in the South after all, not the president. The county *there* would certainly be named after Abram.

Long – Yes! Named after a surgeon.

Lowndes – Ah, maybe? Named after a South Carolina politician. Actually, one “Victor Winters” is the immediate analogue in Carolina history *there*.

Lumpkin – Part of the Cherokee Nation. But some’kin should probably be named Lumpkin – his name is all over the place in the South.

Macon – Yes, no, maybe so? Named after the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Georgian though I may be, I was raised, in the loosest of ways possible, a Jew, and here’s a little joke I used to tell when my ig’orant south’ner free-ay-ends used to ask about what Jews thought about the afterlife: Those of us who have studied the Tanakh, I firmly believe, those of us who understand the Talmud, and who keep by those standards, those of us who are righteous, who understand the wisdom of Deuteronomy, they, those righteous men, shall spend eternity in a Thai restaurant. But those (and here is where my religious beliefs might just have been informed by Christianity), but those who are un-repentent sinners, those who sneer at righteousness and at the possibility of being one with G*d, those people, those sinneres, they – they spend eternity at the Shoney’s off Exit ### in downtown Macon. And may G*d have pity on their hushpuppy-eatin’, fried-shrimp-de-tailin’, country-fried-steak-removin’-the-excess-of-gravy-from-aforementioned-steak lovin’ souls. – Anyway. I’ve told this joke for years upon years, and the people I know from Macon itself always laugh. It’s the people who seem to live two and half hour’s drive from Macon, but still tell people they meet through work that they live in Macon, who find fault with this’n.

Madison County – No. Named after the president. I was thinking maybe “Taylor,” after Jonathan Taylor, the fourth GM *there*. But that complicates Taylor county *here*. Maybe the land called Taylor *here* could be named for *there*’s GM Kuster?

Marion – Marion was a big guerilla tactics guy back before guerilla tactics were en vogue. They called him the Swamp Fox. He had a crazy childhood – when he was fifteen he was shipwrecked and spent six days in a lifeboat, during which time two men died of exposure. His career began in the French and Indian War as a agent against the Cherokee, where I think his importance *here* and *there* diverge. He was West Indian, a Caribbean, and were I y’all, it would be this note, and not his anti-Indian campaigns, that might be remembered in the name of this county.

McDuffie – Another governor of South Carolina and a friend of Calhoun’s. His governship *here* is also within Winters’ governship over *there*, so maybe name this one after Deputy Governor of Carolina for that time period, David Lowry Swain?

McIntosh – Part of Florida.

Meriwether – Named for a representative, and not a particularly well-known one.

Miller – Sure. Named for the president of the medical College of Georgia.

Mitchell – Named for another one of these Revolutionary War heroes. Not a very well remembered man, Gen. Henry Mitchell. Maybe change it?

Monroe – Get all on top of this. We’ll just assume the Jacobian county is named after GM James Monroe (r. 1813 – 23).

Montgomery – Yeah, Richard Montgomery might’ve fought in service of the Revolution, but he died in 1775, before we even declared independence. He was an Irishman, and originally enlisted in the British Army to fight in the French-Indian War. I looked up the War of 1755 as a possible source for like figures, didn’t really find anyone, but it might could be, in the mind of this outsider, a place to look for a name that would keep in touch with the feeling of our times, but be true to the IB timeline.

Morgan – Says Wikipedia, “one of the most gifted battlefield tacticians of the American Revolutionary War.” Okay. He was big involved with Montgomery and Benedict Arnold, and I’d hold onto him if I was y’all.

Murray – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Muscogee – Yes, named after the Muskogee group of Indians, to whom the Creek and Seminole belong.

Newton – Named after a Revolutionary War guy who served with the guy who gave his name to another county in *here*’s Georgia, Marion. Actually, he’s one of these boys whose life’s managed to slip from from the entirely historical into the entirely legendary, kind of like Hart above.

Oconee – Sure, named after the Oconee River.

Oglethorpe – Definitely! Oglethorpe exists *there* just as he does *here*.

Paulding – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Peach – Yeah! Named for the fruit.

Pickens – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Pierce – Might want to change that; the county is named after the president. Maybe change it to Ffeil Gwilim, the fourteenth GM? (“Ffeil Gwilim means “Son of William” in Brithenig, yeah? Is that even a last name? I know in Iceland, where productive patronymics are still in use, people professionally use only their first names.)

Pike – Sure. He was a hero of 1812, but he was also an explorer! How cool is that?

Polk – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Pulaski – I’d change this if I were y’all. Kazimierz Pulaski’s name is all over this country, especially in the South. My studio is Pulaski Street, for example. BUT, he’s another one of these Revolutionary War guys, and he came to the country because of the Bar Confederation’s uprising against the Russian domination of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. I’m not sure Russian *there* ever had such a relationship with the RTC, and if they did, I’m not sure if the two events, the uprising against the Russians and the NAL’s negotiations with the FK. Putnam – Another one of these Revolutionary War guys – but with a dark twist! His family were known witchhunters during the Salem witch trials! (Egad!) I originally planned to suggest, in an attempt to retain the Gothic horror of this county's name, but to eliminate the explicit reference to the Revolution, naming the county "Phips" (or "Phipps") after the governor of Massachusetts Bay during the Salem Witch Trials. (I didn’t know if there was an established figure over *there*.) Unfortunately, though, Mr. Phips was rather unpopular during his day (mostly for his construction of costly anti-Indian forts), and would probably not be proudly remembered, hero of Indian Wars or no. So this guy's still up in the air.

Quitman -- Another Mexican War hero; another no go.

Rabun -- In following the profile of the maps drawn for Jacobia, I think Rabun county would probably belong to Carolina. I think leaving Rabun up on top rather makes Jacobia look like it has an antenna; and, aesthetics aside, it would make Rabun the least accessible county in the province; in Carolina, it would be considerably easier to get to using only intrastate roads. Similarly, Towns, Union, although certainly not a part of Jacobia according to the IB maps, are also arguably Carolina or Cherokee Nation claims.

Randolph -- Named for John Randolph of Roanoke, a peculiar gentleman stricken with Klinefelter's syndrome who was (believed to be) a descendent of Pochahontas. Perhaps strip away the restrictions grounding the name in our universe and call it just "Roanoke"?

Richmond – Ah, Richmond. Richmond, Richmond, Richmond. Personal memories aside, this county is another one of those Burke-Chatham-Effingham type deals. Named after a member of Parliament who favored independence. I’m recommending St Paul, the name of the original area.

Rockdale – Well, y’all. Rockdale’s named after the g*dang slab of granite the city of Conyers is sitting on, so I think this name’d work just as well over *there* as it does *here*. (A fun side note – Rockdale is the STD capital of Georgia!)

Schley – A governor of Georgia, take him or leave him.

Screven – This’n’s named after a little known hero of the Revolutionary War. My friends from Effingham make fun of the drivers, although Screven does have substantially more paved roads than does Effingham. – Why not name it Sylvaania, after *here*’s Sylvania, the county seat of Screven and the home of my sophomore roommate’s grandmother? Or better yet, why not name it York? That’s the name of a county in Jacobia which seems not to have an actual territory firmly attached to it.

Seminole – Shoot, yeah. Named for the Seminole Indian Nation.

Spalding – As much as I’d like to believe this county’s named for Groucho’s character in “Animal Crackers” (“Hurray for Captain Spaulding!”), it’s rather boringly named for a Constitutional Convention guy. Puh. – Perhaps name it after Mr Spalding’s home, St Simon? St Simon’s Island is a part of Glynn county *here* (and the home of a pretty swank hotel, The King and the Prince, where my grandparents took us for fives summers when I was a child and preteen, and which had a badass tiny little sandbar-slash-island off the coast that became the sovereign territory of my first micronation, Regmodamia). But Glynn’s a part of Florida by my calculations *there*. So I think St Simon might be kosher.

Stephens – Yeah, no. Just, no. Named after the vice president of the CSA. The county seat is Toccoa, named for Toccoa Falls, a rather silly place. I almost bought a truck there, but then my grandfather, who was cosigning, decided to back out because he felt the guy was giving us the “run-around.” (I still take the bus.) Anywho, Toccoa itself is a Cherokee word meaning “beautiful.” This region of Georgia *here* is pretty close to Nantahala National Park. Not spitting-distance-close, but pretty close. “Nantahala,” aside from being the name of the street I live on, is another Cherokee name meaning “Land of the Noonday Sun.” It’s a name fairly common in the Carolinas, but not officially represented, as far as I can tell, in this state. One more Cherokee name might reflect the embrace of Indianism in the NAL as opposed to the fear and violence visited upon natives over *here*.

Stewart – A hero of the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.

Sumter – Named for the “Fighting Gamecock” hero of 1812, a Welshman. Maybe a great opportunity for a Brithenig name!

Talbot – Matthew Talbot, an early governor of the state of Georgia. Maybe his name could be kept and could be used to fill in one of the question marks in the list of Jacobian Lord Governors.

Taliaferro – A hero or the revolutionary war. But this one might just be a keeper. Aside from his war-time activities, he was a member of the Georgia Senate, a judge, and a trustee of the University.

Tattnal – A senator and governor. He was governor in between Emanuel and Milledge.

Telfair – The second governor of Georgia, and a big slavery proponent. Maybe this county would be a good one to name after that a-hole over *there*, Watson.

Terrell – A representative and physician. There’s a building named for him at UGA. So why not!

Thomas – An American military officer and builder – He built the Franklin College (of Arts and Sciences) through which I metriculated, as well as the state capitol building (then in Milledgeville), so I say, way to go Jett Thomas!

Tift – They claim they’ve got the cheapest gas in the state, and I can’t disagree. It’s my buddy Paul’s and my typical last stop in the state whenever we head down to Florida. Anyway, it’s named for that grand-royal a-hole, Mr Nelson Tift, Confederate naval captain. Perhaps name it after Commodore James Dewey, that naval hero of the War of 1898 over *there*?

Toombs – Named for the Confederate Secretary of State. Toombs is known for it’s vidalia onions, so, following Peach County, perhaps name it – Vidalia?

Towns – Part of either Carolina or the Cherokee Nation.

Treutlen – Named for the first democratically elected Governor back in 1777. Maybe name it “Slaton,” after Lord Gov. Ion Slaton?

Troup – Troup was known as the “Hercules of State’s Rights,” and an dedicated supportor of slavery. Right. Maybe this is Tara County over there?

Turner – Eh. A Civil War guy and a representative. His successor, Russell, was also a Civil War guy. Russell’s successor, Griggs, was popular with the people, but doesn’t particularly stick out in history. His sucessor, Roddenbery, was a terrible racist. The Georgia Senator from that area at the time, Norwood, however, wasn’t too bad a guy, and a prominent Savannah attorney. So... I don’t know. Were I y’all I’d name the place Norwood.

Twiggs – Named for John Twiggs, Georgia militiaman and a governor. I say Twiggs wouldn’t be too bad a guy to name a county after – He helped choose the site of UGA.

Union – Part of the Cherokee Nation. (this name was changed anyway due to historical events)

Upson – Sure, named after a legislator.

Walker – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Walton – A guy who signed the Declaration of Independence. The land for Walton county came from the creek Cession of 1818, and so maybe “Creek” would be a good name for this county.

Ware – A senator and mayor of Augusta.

Warren – A Revolutionary Guy, but also a Grand Master of the Freemasons! I say keep the name, even if only out of kitsch appeal.

Washington – Is this Wainwright County over there?

Wayne – Named for “Mad Anthony” Wayne, a career military man, who fought in the Revolutionary War, but also a soldier in the Northwest Indian Wars. As these territories were peacefully incorporated into the NAL, I’m not sure Wayne would be so fondly remembered *there*.

Webster – Named for the US Secretary of State and supporter of the Compromise of 1850, which, of course, was a plan to admit Missouri as a slave state, Maine as a free state, and (I believe) to allow New Mexico and Utah territories to choose or refuse slavery based on popular sovereignty. The original name of the county was “Kinchafoonee,” how fun is that!

Wheeler – Eh. A Civil War and Spanish-American War guy. Perhaps name it after McKinley, who was GM during the war of 1898?

White – We actually don’t know who this county is named for, either David White or John White. Since a White is a White is a White over *here*, I’m sure the name could work just fine over *there*.

Whitfield – Part of the Cherokee Nation.

Wilcox – Again, and this is weird, we’re not sure if this county is named for Mark Wilcox, the legislator and one of the founders of the Supreme court, or if it’s named after his son. A Wilcox is a Wilcox is a Wilcox.

Wilkes – Named after one of those members of parliament sympathetic to independence. Maybe, actually, somewhat strangely, “Cherokee” would be an apt name; it was built on land gained during the Cherokee Cession of 1773.

Wilkinson – He served under Benedict Arnold, but embellished his role in the Battle of Saratoga. His career, according to Wikipedia, was “associated with several scandals and controversies.” Yep. How about Raintree, one of the counties which already exists *there* but not *here*?

Worth – During the Mexican War, he commanded the 2nd Regular Division, Army of Occupation at the Battle of Monterrey. Why not name this county after a Montreiano?

A few concluding observations by an interested bystander, in no particular order:

-- Is there a Marie Phagan Memorial Highway?

-- One beautiful thing about Jacobia is the heatedness of the anti-slavery debate. Georgia was famously ambivalent in the past. Even though we sent delegates to sign the Declaration of Independence, our government never formally seceded from the UK. Four score and odd years later, after Sherman’s March to the Sea, we essentially abandoned the CSA, but our inability to hold to the terms and conditions asked by the Union, we were the last to be readmitted after the Civil War.

-- One interesting side effect of having a Cherokee Nation which retained its traditional lands is that the Chattahoochee R is quite often the boundary between Jacobia and the CN. This could make for quite a nasty dispute if the province ever experienced as nasty a drought as we did *here* last year. *Here*, inadequately prepared for a water shortage, and unwilling to put in place strict enough measures to lower consumption, we found ourselves arguing over the owernship of a two mile long stretch of river we share in common with Tennessee. In provinces which are even lessly closely federated than we are here, that could get quite ugly!

Awesome. Thank you for reading this.

Zeke

calaban [dot] white [at] gmail [dot] com

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