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Why would they use a foreign logo (russia) on a nationalist propaganda poster ? If the message was about colaboration/frienship/cobeligenrence I could see it but with the way its presented (just the country's name), it seem to rather prove what they wouldn't say out loud: "We're a SNORist backed party !".
--Marc Pasquin 13:20, 31 March 2006 (PST)
- A good point. However, this poster is not nationalist so much as collaborationist. It is extolling not only the wonderful gains being made by Oltenia under the (then) current leadership, but also in partnership with its brother-in-arms Russia. My aim was to capture a similar "feel" to those weird posters in Occupied and Vichy France, portraying Hitler and Petain as partners in the future. Does that make sense? Zahir 18:19, 31 March 2006 (PST)
- Since the message conveyed by collaborationist poster is one of equality ("We're partners, not master and servant") maybe instead of the large SNOR logo would could have 2 dirigeables flying side by side (each with the relevant symbol). Another classic is the crossed flags or soldiers of 2 countries shaking hands. Maybe also the line could read "Georgia takes its place" or "Georgia joins the fight". --Marc Pasquin 08:19, 1 April 2006 (PST)
- Nice idea! I was thinking of making some more such posters. But the poster refers to Istvan Gheorghiu, not Georgia. Zahir 09:51, 1 April 2006 (PST)
- Got it, my mistake. In that case, you shouldn't even include the SNOR symbol considering he is "The Leader" (and not, of course, a puppet of Russia). If its colaboration you want to convey, have Gheorghiu facing Vissarionov. One of the "rule" in propagandist images of this sort is to show both elements on equal footing: 1 soldier from each side, both flags, both COA, etc... If you mix types of symbols, the effect of showing equality is lost. --Marc Pasquin 10:56, 1 April 2006 (PST)
- Now I'm feeling so very anal, because Vissarionov would be wrong. He was long-dead by the time Gheorghiu came to office. I am convinced some other examples of such posters would be a very good idea (and more in tune with your description), yet this one also make sense to me because of Gheorghiu himself. He was a weird human being and would often send contradictory messages in one way or another. For example, this poster was supposed to say "Oltenia is accomplishing great things with the help of our older brother Russia" but also "Oltenia is accomplishing great things on its own under the shadow of Russia" as well as "Oltenia is accomplishing great things solely because of our wonderful relationship with Russia." Odd? Yes. But very much in character. Yet, as I said, more posters of different designs are called for. Zahir 11:23, 1 April 2006 (PST)
- I said Vissarionov bacause I thought the white regency was from that period but any other leaders would do the same. I think however that just because the leader is slightly off his marbles (and which dictator wasn't), it doesn't mean that those who are in charge of propaganda are. If anything, they would need to be quite good to, lets say, polish up his rough edges. --Marc Pasquin 17:21, 2 April 2006 (PDT)